Talk:Are Earth's religions false?

Hawaiian 21:15, 22 August 2009 (UTC)True, religions are for those too lazy to think for themselves, depending on some ridiculus god or church to find the answers that are all within each and every human being on Earth! It is just a degenerative exploitation tool to control the masses in order for those responsible for religions to stay in power, in other words, to exist at the expense of others...no better than human parasites!

The Christians as well as Muslums are illogical to believe "their" prophet is now a god and be worshiped. Jmmanuel, the 5th prophet who is falsely named Jesus Christ is nothing but a black hole abyss, because when something is invalid, all prayer energies directly toward it becomes nothing too! Besides, why have another prophet coming later, Mohammed, the 6th, if the Christians were correct that Jesus is now god, the Absolute!

Completely illogical, if the prophet's mission were successful as both these major religions claim...then why have the final 7th prophent, BEAM (although he depises this title for good reason)? Besides, what gives this so called god or gods the right to be the only ones EXCLUSIVELY RESERVED in Creation, when Creation is dependent that ALL intelligent beings including all things created to become ONE, so that Creation can continue to evolve forever?

One should also pose this question directly, parents are superior to their off spring, yet they want them to become greater than themselves, yet religion preaches that there is only one god, the absolute. If so, that this god is a thug, power lustful degenerate, because like parents, he/she or it should be HONORED to have another human or intelligent being become spiritually at the same level or higher. But that is not the case, thus one can conclude that religions, the concept of god are all false, being it only promotes the power lustful and not yourself...period!

No prophet has ever wanted to be elevated above their fellow mankind or womankind, they all want others to become much more spiritually evolved, thus it is this honor that they so desire all to become. Same concept s applies to these false gods, if they would only admit their mistakes and attempt to bring harmony for the crimes they commit, because even Creation has the capacity to evolve accordingly.

robert said ...

yep religion are false teaching they are worng on term creation so jmmanuel fasle names of jesus . easter and christmas is false too but christmas is still remnain my faviorte holiday. but they have no ideal what is really giong in our dern universe. it was severe lack of understand about true our brother and sister and cosmic friends they have made by creation.

--robert 18:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Rob Pettigrew said ...

Which is very interesting. Concidering that what Billy is doing is creating a religion in it's truest form. Think about it. He has a Prophet, Commandments, A supreme being (creation) Laws on behavior and enlightenment as provided by extra-dimensional beings. Most if not all of his teaching are unproveable and must be taken on faith, if for no other reason then every bit of Hard evidence ends up being destroyed or lost

--Rob Pettigrew 00:03, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

I find that Eduard hasn't altered any of the creational teachings because everything mostly and naturally makes sense. However the current religions altered many of the original content. The 10 commandments when there was actually 12. I find the the current religions and new ones that spring up somehow put fear into man and with altered writings manipulate those that can't find confidence that each person can create there own train of thought for themselves. I agree that religion is somewhat an enslavement because you tend to agree with everything a priest or preacher says. Look how simple it is to create a religion scientology, or any other means to gain followers. I see it as a large group of ideas combating another group of ideas and ideals. The universal truth would never make anyone feel pressured into something. Religion is a pressure cooker set on high with no escape. Those that do escape are quite lucky to be able to choose there path unimpeded.

--Mark 00:47, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

To Rob Pettigrew,

Apparently you know very little of these Creational Laws, spiritual development/evolution and other materials written by Billy Meier to categorise it's meanings as similar to religious dogmas! Quite the contrast, for BEAM's mission is to free humanity from the insane, corrupt, power-lust greed and destruction that religions promote.

BEAM's mission is quite the opposite, because every single human or other intelligences are all part of Creation and has the potential to become Creation, not some fallacy god or gods, which by definition are just titles of material Beings, far below even the half physical/spiritual High Council.

Until one first frees himself or herself from these stupid religious dogmas, they have little hope of evolving any further, nor will they have the necessary facilities to become consciously aware of their true potentials, surpassing the very concept of god, the roadblock of evolution.

--Hawaiian 02:31, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Neckel said ...

Dear Rob Pettigrew,

Exactly here is the divergence between the teachings of BEAM and religions... His teachings are provable for one self. Only one example, please read the book: "Die Psysche" (The Psyche), apply what is written in there, and you will be like a rock in the stormy water, your life quality is upgraded big time, (because life quality is defined by your mind) and at the same time going your individual way, depending on your wishes or on what you want to learn, without worship, without rituals, without constraint ect. This is only one example.

--Neckel 06:07, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Neckel said ...

Ah and i forgot to add: In the whole teaching there is not once the word "saint" or a word about chosen humans by a God. Nothing is for free and the most often you will hear in the teaching, is that you have to do everything by yourself. You have to create freedom, love ect inside yourself, which implicates a lot of thinking and some experiences. Evolution is hard work inside oneself and about many efforts.

--Neckel 06:55, 2 June 2010 (BST)

jimmy said ...

who gave you the answers@and do you think they are true

--jimmy 18:05, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Norrie said ...

the thing i dont understand is that if god is the one god JESUS why do people think that their religeon is right, and the way to god is through that belief in that church.people should wise up have one religeon to the one true god who is JESUS CHRIST

--Norrie 18:20, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

Dear Norrie,

If you and other Christians claim that Jesus Christ is God the Absolute power of Creation is true, then why am I still here after telling "him" to f**k off and join the evil Creator Overlords in the last of three dreams "he" came forward to?

I don't fear this impostor, make believe "mickey mouse" Jesus Christ or any of these fallacy god or gods, nor should anyone else for that matter, religions only have power over you if you allow it so.

It is one of the worst criminal acts against humanity. Logical reasoning derived from BEAM's writings enables one to "reconnect" to their past, current and future attributes and establish the necessary facilities to further develop their spiritual evolution, knowledge and experiences.

God, Jesus Christ, and other "deities" are thugs, the same goes to religious leaders as well, discriminating against women and promoting all types of evils, especially fear just to keep themselves in power. They are no better than tyrants and dictarships, those that kill others for their opposing views.

But, many in their ignorance will march lock step in their religious brain-washed mentality, simply because they are stuck-on-stupid to continue down this degenerative, destructive path of religious black hole abyss! Hopefully they will not also destroy the world for those seeking true Creational well being as witnessed in other worlds of this universe?

--Hawaiian 20:35, 2 June 2010 (BST)

Neckel said ...

Who gave me the answers ? Good question :)

I gave me the answers myself :). I applied the teaching in daily life and it works, that is a proof for me that this "handbook" or guide with recommendations works very well, as an example: If you have a handbook for a machine, you read it and apply it, if you can use the machine after having read the handbook, then you know it is a good one. If you still cannot use the machine after having read the handbook, then you know that the handbook is worthless or wrong.......

There are around 19 big religions or main religious directions (do not know the exact number) one can practice and they are subdivided in thousands of side branches, sects ect. :) If there is "only one" right religion, why did "God" then allow the existence of all the others in the first place ?

.... Missionizing... the old story which brought only pain, blood and death to those that should be converted...... as clearly shown in history by the inquisition, conquistadores, religious wars everywhere ect..... no sign of humanness or real help, if there would be a "good God" he would put those humans into hell that do such things in his name in the first place....... "Though shall not kill".....

Think about it: It is said "God is good and allmighty": Well,.... he can not be both together...... Why ? Because whether he is "good" and lets the things happen as they happen without interfering, or in other words we are responsible for what we do, which comes close to Creation (Law of cause and effect). Or he is "almighty" and controls every movement of all of us at every time and therefore he must be a saddist and a murderer because he delibirately brings so much pain upon many famillies and countries......... just think of the storms, earthquakes and volcanoes clashing cities at the moment and the huge hole in Guatemala city ????? - pretty illogical..... We have a free will and this should be used.

Salome

--Neckel 09:34, 3 June 2010 (BST)

JVP said ...

I can agree more. Love and Peace JVP

--JVP 09:29, 27 August 2010 (BST)