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there are any ones have christian frehner e-mail addresst anyone

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"J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...
This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight. 1. I am Ramtha: Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint,extraterrestrial, or whatever. Death or ascension, Nothing but truth, Lawlessness of life,... These are some of the chapters in ramtha's white book that that can be disturbing if your looking to have a true cognition and find an exact answer through pure reason and logic. There is no solid answer to find or to be proven. The information doesn't stand up to normal phases of coherent reality unless there lies a "belief system" where one accepts the fact that he can't prove to "himself", or anyone else that the information is the truth, or a product of a "delusional sectarian" with money,fame, and machinations in mind. It seems to be a mish-mosh of philosophical views, poetry, personal beliefs, mixed with quantum overtones and pagonism. Throw in some music, and some wine, and claim to yourself and all, that you are a "GREAT GOD"!
Ramtha even went as far as to tell his students that you can make material things appear right before your eyes if you focus hard enough. Of course J.Z. knight doesn't have to take responsibility for anything that "Ramtha" says, because she claims that "Ramtha takes over her body". But to have a "legal ministry", there must be an "Invisible God" somewhere in the equasion or picture. The whole channeling thing is disturbing because first of all, the thought of another completely "different personality or spirit enter your body", (as J.Z. claims), would mean that any life form highly advanced and far behond our evolutionary reach can , at will, and of course your "own will", can enter my body and proceed to teach us what ramtha calls "The great work".
Producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone.( If this were possible wouldn't you think that the Annunaki,ancient lyrians, or Plejarens would have done so to save their dying planet?
Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha : The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school" which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are... You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just "isness", the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years. The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current which means that if you haven't gone to the school in a matter of three months or so, you have to pay a beginner's rate and start all over again because Ramtha claims that to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given, "you must remain current". If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand. I have also seen individuals neglect their normal resposabilities just to become current with fear that they cannot attend upcoming events unless they "stay in school".
Ramtha says that he is from the "Plejares", a star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus. 　It is difficult to exactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order) it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the consistency with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantum level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws. They call eachother gods and masters in the school but seemingly fail to recognise "the truth" but say that everyone creates their own truth. This is a mind screw because then people start disregarding the fundamental truth and start treating each other with disrespect and act and think in a self serving, selfish manner. I could go on and on but I do think that over 25 years of going nowhere within the so called ramtha teachings was enough for me.
By
Derrick Lee
Salome
　

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 22:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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We the people

By Derrick Lee
　
We maintain our daily lives with entertainment and distractions from our true responsibilities to ourselves, our world, and our fellow man. There are many things we can do to change our world for the better However, we don't take the initiative.

We deplete the earth of it's natural resources to the point of no return as our population is grown out of control along with our dependency on fossil fuels with no short term or long term resolution in sight. There are many things that we can do, but the train keeps rolling ever faster.

We rape the oceans of it's inhabitances and it's natural resources and slaughter life forms for pleasure in the most degrading manner. There are many things that we can do about it but we don't all live by an ocean, nor could we go without a tuna sandwich or shark fin soup.

We promote sports stars as heroes while scientists lack funds to further breakthrough scientific research and developments that would greatly benefit the world and human kind.
There are many things that we can do about it but we would rather watch a good boxing match than think about all of that boring science stuff.

We turn the reality of extraterrestrial beings/life forms into evil monstrous interpretations that are coming down from the sky in a blaze to take over the world (as hollywood portrays) and have the audacity and arrogance to ignorantly assume that "we" are the only intelligent life form in the universe.
There are many things that we can do to learn the truth about it but most of us are not open to the possibility and don't take the time to research the truth for ourselves.

We create unnecessary dramas with our family, friends and neighbors. We have the capacity of great peace and love and there are many things we can do to change, but it's always the other guys fault.

We pray humbly to our invisible god for help when a crises occurs. There never comes a clear answer from this god, yet we continue to pray and beg and have faith in gods, religions and idols to take the burden from our hands.
There are many things that we can do to further develop our consciousness, (spirit) however we let our god bear the responsibility for OUR actions thereby excluding our own cognitions , spiritual realizations, reasoning and logic and the natural unity of ourselves with life and nature.

We say that we love our partner, as we look out of the corner of our eyes for the next best thing. there are many ways to avoid these situations and love one another with honor but what he or she" won't know, won't hurt them" and the relationship wasn't about truth in the first place anyway. only sex and material advancement, and a need to subdue our loneliness.

We lie and tell untruths on a daily basis. There is one way to correct this but "they" don't know I'm lying any way.

We steal and rob oneanother and anyone else because we think we can get away with it and we justify it in our mind for whatever reason we choose.
There is one way for us to correct this but even if "WE" don't change through being jailed, natural laws will come into play and we will learn the hard way because we have a habit of not learning lessons until it's too late.

We murder and rape men, woman and children for whatever twisted reason we have or don't have. There are many ways to end that madness and evil but even if "WE" don't change through being jailed, natural laws will come into play and we will learn the hard way because we have a habit of not learning lessons until it's too late.
　
　
We have the ability to sore to great heights in our dreams and consciousness related abilities.
We can create beautiful things that have true value and bring progress, truth and evolution to our world and eachother but it's solely up to... We the people.

By Derrick Lee

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 20:57, 26 July 2011 (BST)
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2011-02-24T16:29:01Z

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That would be interesting. They said they had around 23 billion population and there air quality greatly diminished. I'm guessing if someone sneezed when sick they would have to close down the entire block for quarantine if they had blocks.:) I heard today by 2050 we would be nearing the 9-10 billion range on Earth. That should be a goal that we should not achieve. It seems the countries without the most educated people are the major ones that are growing fastest and have wealthy leaders atop there perch still not advising the populace on how to maintain order. You have great wealth add balance by at least giving people clean air for future generations. We need to change the system of growth population and change the system of progress in terms of wealth so it doesn't blind people easily to more important matters. Every country will say money makes the world go around and there is validity in that phrase. If perfected system of money is designed unlike the current clumsy corruptable version Earth will be better off eventually.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 04:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
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[edit] 35th Contact
Date of contact: Tuesday, 16 September 1975 19:14
This is an excerpt of the entire contact report

Ptaah

The next inhabited system is around five lightyears away from Earth. 998/Different worlds in that system are inhabited by human forms of life, who differ little from your races. 999/In their development they are some years in advance of that of the Earth human beings, spiritually as well as technologically. 1001/They have already achieved space-flight in primitive form, and also do visit Earth. 1002/Because their cosmic flight capabilities are very limited, they depend on assistance stations. 1003/Mid-way between their world and Earth, they have constructed a space station, which you can see far outside in space there... (pointing to screen). 1004/They need such stations because they are still unable to launch their ships over large distances. 1005/Also, connected to their space-flight now, is severe body pain, from which they narcotise themselves for longer journeys in the cosmos. 1006/Besides the other races of these worlds, this one race comes often to Earth. 1007/This is because their homeworld, which is no greater than Earth herself, suffers from overcrowding, and needs huge quantities of food. 1008/For this reason, beings from that planet, called "Akart", come to Earth often to collect there plants, vegetables, fruits and grains, to nourish their 23 billion population. 1010/They are mostly satisfied with taking seeds of fruits, grains and vegetables, and also plant stocks, to set out on Akart to grow there. 1011/They collect more useable nourishments on other (less populated) worlds which they also visit often and periodically. 1012/In themselves, these forms are of rather peaceful character, and have had to suffer much in the last centuries. 1013/Today they live under a dictatorship, as you would call it, by which they have relatively better living conditions. 1014/Their great problem is their severe overcrowding, which they could relieve by emigration, but their technologies have not solved space transportation on sufficient scale to be of any help.

Meier

That is a lot, but do other creatures in that system also come to Earth, and why don't they assist that over-populated planet?

Ptaah

1016/The others come there and also to Earth, but this occurs rather seldom. 1017/The reason they do not assist the overcrowded race, is that these creatures have not proceeded far enough in their development or their improvement to offer them greater technical and spiritual help. 1018/These humans are still too much caught up in the material and worldly things, and are not allowed access to

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 16:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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2011-02-22T04:10:15Z

Derrick: channeler's J.Z.Knight channeler of "Ramtha"

Stan Fullham

2011-02-20T23:59:28Z

Derrick: Created page with "Stan Fullham "ON Akart" I will be researching Stan Fullham Regarding a race of extraterrestrials from a planet called Akart. Any information that is provided from Billy Eduard A..."

Stan Fullham "ON Akart"
I will be researching Stan Fullham Regarding a race of extraterrestrials from a planet called Akart. Any information that is provided
from Billy Eduard Albert Meier in regards to the akart's or Akartians, will be designated as such and with the permission from Billy Eduard Albert Meier. To be continued...

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2011-02-20T22:39:56Z

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"J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...
This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight. 1. I am Ramtha: Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint,extraterrestrial, or whatever. Death or ascension, Nothing but truth, Lawlessness of life,... These are some of the chapters in ramtha's white book that that can be disturbing if your looking to have a true cognition and find an exact answer through pure reason and logic. There is no solid answer to find or to be proven. The information doesn't stand up to normal phases of coherent reality unless there lies a "belief system" where one accepts the fact that he can't prove to "himself", or anyone else that the information is the truth, or a product of a "delusional sectarian" with money,fame, and machinations in mind. It seems to be a mish-mosh of philosophical views, poetry, personal beliefs, mixed with quantum overtones and pagonism. Throw in some music, and some wine, and claim to yourself and all, that you are a "GREAT GOD"!
Ramtha even went as far as to tell his students that you can make material things appear right before your eyes if you focus hard enough. Of course J.Z. knight doesn't have to take responsibility for anything that "Ramtha" says, because she claims that "Ramtha takes over her body". But to have a "legal ministry", there must be an "Invisible God" somewhere in the equasion or picture. The whole channeling thing is disturbing because first of all, the thought of another completely "different personality or spirit enter your body", (as J.Z. claims), would mean that any life form highly advanced and far behond our evolutionary reach can , at will, and of course your "own will", can enter my body and proceed to teach us what ramtha calls "The great work".
Producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone.( If this were possible wouldn't you think that the Annunaki,ancient lyrians, or Plejarens would have done so to save their dying planet?
Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha : The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school" which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are... You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just "isness", the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years. The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current which means that if you haven't gone to the school in a matter of three months or so, you have to pay a beginner's rate and start all over again because Ramtha claims that to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given, "you must remain current". If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand. I have also seen individuals neglect their normal resposabilities just to become current with fear that they cannot attend upcoming events unless they "stay in school".
Ramtha says that he is from the "Plejares", a star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus. 　It is difficult to exactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order) it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the consistency with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantum level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws. They call eachother gods and masters in the school but seemingly fail to recognise "the truth" but say that everyone creates their own truth. This is a mind screw because then people start disregarding the fundamental truth and start treating each other with disrespect and act and think in a self serving, selfish manner. I could go on and on but I do think that over 25 years of going

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2011-02-20T21:46:16Z

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2011-02-20T21:45:05Z

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2011-02-20T21:41:18Z

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2011-02-20T21:18:11Z

Derrick:

"J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...

This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight.
1. I am Ramtha:
Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint,extraterrestrial, or whatever. Death or ascension, Nothing but truth, Lawlessness of life,...
These are some of the chapters in ramtha's white book that that can be disturbing if your looking to have a true cognition and find an exact answer through pure reason and logic. There is no solid answer to find or to be proven. The information doesn't stand up to normal phases of coherent reality unless there lies a "belief system" where one accepts the fact that he can't prove to "himself", or anyone else that the information is the truth, or a product of a delusional sectarian with money,fame, and machinations in mind. It seems to be a mish-mosh of philosophical views, poetry, personal beliefs, mixed with quantum overtones. Throw in some music, and some wine, and claim to yourself and all, that you are a "GREAT GOD"!

Ramtha even went as far as to tell his students that you can make material things appear right before your eyes if you focus hard enough. Of course J.Z. knight doesn't have to take responsibility for anything that "Ramtha" says because she claims that "Ramtha", takes over her body and to have a "legal ministry", there must be an "Invisible God" somewhere in the equasion or picture. The whole channeling thing is disturbing because first of all, the thought of another completely different personality or "spirit", (as J.Z. claims), would mean that any life form highly advanced and far behond our evolutionary reach can at will, and of course my "own" will, can enter my body and proceed to teach us what ramtha calls "The great work".

5.producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone.( If this were possible wouldn't you think that the Annunaki,ancient lyrians, or Plejarens would have done so to save their dying planet?
Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha :
The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are...
You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just "isness", the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years.
The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given by ramtha. If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand.
Ramtha says that he is from the Plejares. A star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus.
　It is difficult to exactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order) it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the consistency with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantum level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws. They call eachother gods and masters in the school but seemingly fail to recognise "the truth" but say that everyone creates their own truth. This is a mind screw because then people start disregarding the fundamental truth and start treating each other with disrespect and act and think in a self serving, selfish manner. I could go on and on but I do think that over 25 years of going nowhere within the so called ramtha teachings was enough for me. Derrick Lee Saalome

　

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2011-02-20T21:12:04Z

Derrick:

"J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...

This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight.
1. I am Ramtha:
Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint,extraterrestrial, or whatever. Death or ascension, Nothing but truth, Lawlessness of life,...
These are some of the chapters in ramtha's white book that that can be disturbing if your looking to have a true cognition and find an exact answer through pure reason and logic. There is no solid answer to find or to be proven. The information doesn't stand up to normal phases of coherent reality unless there lies a "belief system" where one accepts the fact that he can't prove to "himself", or anyone else that the information is the truth, or a product of a delusional sectarian with money,fame, and machinations in mind. It seems to be a mish-mosh of philosophical views, poetry, personal beliefs, mixed with quantum overtones. Throw in some music, and some wine, and claim to yourself and all, that you are a "GREAT GOD"!

Ramtha even went as far as to tell his students that you can make material things appear right before your eyes if you focus hard enough. Of course J.Z. knight doesn't have to take responsibility for anything that "Ramtha" says because she claims that "Ramtha", takes over her body and to have a legal ministry there must be an invisible god somewhere in the picture. The whole channeling thing is disturbing because first of all, the thought of another completely different personality or "spirit", (as J.Z. claims), would mean that any life form highly advanced and far behond our evolutionary reach can at will, and of course my "own" will, can enter my body and proceed to teach us what ramtha calls "The great work".

5.producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone.( If this were possible wouldn't you think that the Annunaki,ancient lyrians, or Plejarens would have done so to save their dying planet?
Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha :
The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are...
You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just "isness", the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years.
The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given by ramtha. If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand.
Ramtha says that he is from the Plejares. A star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus.
　It is difficult to exactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order) it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the consistency with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantum level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws. They call eachother gods and masters in the school but seemingly fail to recognise "the truth" but say that everyone creates their own truth. This is a mind screw because then people start disregarding the fundamental truth and start treating each other with disrespect and act and think in a self serving, selfish manner. I could go on and on but I do think that over 25 years of going nowhere within the so called ramtha teachings was enough for me. Derrick Lee Saalome

　

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2011-02-10T23:05:49Z

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Sfath /father of Ptaah/ father of Semjase.

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== Lucanus said ... ==

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70 years?! And in another universe?!
Sounds pretty far both in time and space.
Yet I feel she is close to my heart. She is here and now in my heart, because I choose so. It is as simple as that.

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Is there more information on semjase's husband?
I would imagine that he is commited now to earth as a terrestrial earth human...Who is he now? and is he aware of the teachings of creation? I know it's kind of a silly question but I wonder...Is semjase aware of his existance here on earth? assuming of course that she would have checked in on him from time to time. peace Derrick

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 23:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
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2011-02-02T21:06:15Z

Derrick: the truth about "ramtha"...

J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...

This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight.
1. I am Ramtha:
Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint,extraterrestrial, or whatever.
2. Death or ascension:
3. Nothing but truth
4.Lawlessness of life
5.producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone.( If this were possible wouldn't you think that the Annunaki,anciant lyrians,or Plejarens would have done so to save their dying planet?
Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha :
The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are...
You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just isness, the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years.
The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given by ramtha. If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand.
Ramtha says that he is from the Plejares. A star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus.
　It is difficult to exactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order) it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the concistancy with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantam level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws. They call eachother gods and masters in the school but seemingly fail to recognise "the truth" but say that everyone creates their own truth. This is a mind screw because then people start disregarding the fundamental truth and start treating eachother with disrespect and act and think in a self serving, selfish manner. I could go on and on but I do think that over 25 years of going nowhere within the so called ramtha teachings was enough for me. Derrick Lee Saalome

　

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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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This is very similar to when one meditates without desire or "nothingness", as what Zen monks would describe "Enlightenment", "the sound of the clap of one hand"...pure energy at the 7th level sense where Creation "begins" without a beginning or end, any thought or concept cannot "contain" such energy as it is absolute and pure being, the source of all life, past, current and future that encompasses all fine or coarse matter/energy and continues to evolve forever.

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i fathom it similar to the dream state..one who is aware of there dreaming or becomes aware that they are dreaming there is something to be said about the dream world and its congruency to the Creation and even the Void and All Great Time..

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== Derrick said ... ==

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Dear Mr. Meier,
Thank you for the teachings of truth,the teachings of spirit, the teachings of life.
1.When we die, do we imediately exist in the WE-form?
2. As humans, we are the determining factor in this life but after death can we still direct ourselves consciously in any way and determine anything in that state of being?
3. or is this state completely unconscious?
My very best regards to you Billy:) Derrick salome

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 19:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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erjk,

The dream state is known as the "ether" where the Conscious is still attached to a physical material body, determined by the condition of ones psyche which interfaces with the subconscious that enables the level of "awareness" in both the dream or remote viewing realms. It is a learning exercise between these attributes for your Conscious.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Derrick said ... ==

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Here is a tid bit of some of my thoughts... J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...

This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight.
1. I am Ramtha:
Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint, or whatever.
2. Death or ascension:
3. Nothing but truth
4.Lawlessness of life
5.producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone
Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha :
The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are...
You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just isness, the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years.
The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given by ramtha. If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand.
Ramtha says that he is from the Plejares. A star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus.
　It is difficult to excactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order) it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the concistancy with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantam level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws.

　

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2011-02-02T05:01:26Z

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Billy, can you give us any information in regards to Jmmanuel's sons/daughters? We know that his son placed the scrolls in the hillside for Billy to find but I haven't come across any other notes on this as yet. Do you think the Catholic Church would also have this information since they know the real truth (but will never tell us)? - Cat

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 00:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I'm not sure Billy visits and replies on this site because he is on a mission to save Earth.:) I highly doubt he would give the info on his sons and daughters don't you think that corrupt folks would think up some dastardly deeds. If you want to keep at it however visit steelmark I believe it is where Billy frequents according to some on this forum.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:11, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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On one of the contact notes it was explained that there are only a few real channellers that are authentic on this planet. Who were they and what were there names? I used to fallow the so called teachings of Ramtha. I nolonger fallow them since I found the teachings of creation. If Billy ever does view this...Thank you Billy.... If anyone can help with my question for my records, It would be a great help. I'm surounded by Ramtha fallowers...lol salome Derrick

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 08:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Ramtha is probably man-made lies like all channelling claims, see [[FIGU_Bulletin_008#CHAIN_LETTER]] and [[Contact Report 424]].

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 10:52, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Derrick said ... ==

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Jamesm,
I appreciate your being frank...I know what you said is the truth. I want to be one of those people that fracture the belief systems of the people that fallow all of these liars out there. Another part of me thinks it's an absolute waist of time to even put any energy into it. The reason why I'm asking also is to find a way to slowly deliver the truth to my son with whom is surounded by this ramtha crap that "I" myself brought him into. What do I tell him? I've allready told him that ramtha was a bunch of B.S. and I have been being an example to some degree as to how he can question EVERYTHING! and creational laws etc. I have been reading some of your texts and I really get allot out of them. Your very knowledgable. Thanks Derrick Salome...

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 22:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Thanks Derrick but I'm honestly not very knowledgeable in many matters. I can only remember a small amount of the content of this website and havent read any of the books available in only German yet. If you have a computer-related question then I can probably help! I'm not sure what you should do to help your son. Perhaps, if you deem it a serious enough matter then you should write to Billy Meier and explain the situation. I'm positive that he would respond. Not that I've written to him before, but I've read that he does respond to letters. He is also the guy who wrote most of the content for this website, not I. And he is, after all, the oldest spirit form on the planet! If you would not like to do this then I would personally let your son find his own path unless he explicitly requested your advice/help. Then give him some material to read. Forcing any info onto him might be considered proselytizing, which is wrong, of course. Billy never responds on this website nor do I know whether he reads any of it.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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Salome Derrick,

There is no shame in admitting to your son that you did a mistake with Ramtha..... Everyone is mislead nowadays...... He will understand, even it might take some time, honesty is the most important as it is a barometer of love to some persons also, and in the material life noone is excempt of doing mistakes and going wrong ways here and there.... It is up to you, you know your son best. It lies in your responsibility to bring the truth close to your son without destroying his psysche......

James is right with what he says, your son is a person with a own will, he has to decide f he wants to accept the truth or not. Do not force anything on him. Mention the truth without forcing and await his questions. You can always ask Billy if you wish, but put your real name and real address on the letter or fax, or else your letter will be burned, not putting it, is considered as cowardice....or are you afraid that someone from the stars checks you out ;)

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 00:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Derrick,

Ramtha is a fraud and certainly not one of the 16 mentioned by Billy Meier is his interview of 1988, which I include a short section listed below.

Interview with Billy (1998)

The terms "channeling" and "medium" are part of this "contacting the Beyond" topic. What are we to think of them?
According to reliable information from higher spiritual levels, there are 16 genuine mediums on Earth, but they do not cater to the general public; they neither advertise nor reap financial profits or other worldly gains with their special birthplace and, in effect, still is.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 01:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Re-submitting: character string too long?

Billy Interview of 1988

The terms "channeling" and "medium" are part of this "contacting the Beyond" topic. What are we to think of them?

According to reliable information from higher spiritual levels, there are 16 genuine mediums on Earth, but they do not cater to the general public; they neither advertise nor reap financial profits or other worldly gains with their special birthplace and, in effect, still is.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 01:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Derrick said ... ==

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thank you Hawaiian and Jamesm Where can I submit a question to billy or, Find the address to send him a letter?

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 13:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Derrick said ... ==

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thank you nickel...salome

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 17:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Derrick,

You're welcomed, BTW all one need is to find a logical explanation that counters Ramtha's message so your son starts thinking logically in finding the answers on his own. If you need assistance, just post it here and we'll research it...saalome.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks again Hawaiian, My son is 15 now and doesn't really concern himself too much with ramtha's mish mosh but his mother is and I'm actually more concerned about her. I'm very carefull about what I say to him regarding spiritual issues and sofourth. I mainly express the facination of finding the truth and that "belief systems" fail to provide truth. I also express that "he" is the determining factor in his life. I did on two occasions express to him the fact that ramtha was created by this woman because who in the world would listen to a delusional person unless that person mystified themselves with some kind of personification to form her ministry or whatever you want to call it. I think I should just relax a little because I think my son is more concerned with girls (his girlfriend) at this point. Besides...I have many notes and more to come that will be left to him someday. Hopefully not too soon. :) saalome gamnaan ben uurda, gannijber asaala hesporoona

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 05:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC) Due to misinterpretation on the Plejarens_Are_Real_2005 newsgroup about why a chain letter exists within a FIGU Bulletin I have updated the formatting slightly to make it clear that Billy was making a comment about a money grabbing chain letter rather than promoting one.

Thanks to Randy Arena and Rob Gaul for letting me know about this.

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Hello all, any information on Ramtha? Derrick

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2011-01-15T23:35:15Z

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i fathom it similar to the dream state..one who is aware of there dreaming or becomes aware that they are dreaming there is something to be said about the dream world and its congruency to the Creation and even the Void and All Great Time..

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== Derrick said ... ==

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Dear Mr. Meier,
Thank you for the teachings of truth,the teachings of spirit, the teachings of life.
1.When we die, do we imediately exist in the WE-form?
2. As humans, we are the determining factor in this life but after death can we still direct ourselves consciously in any way and determine anything in that state of being?
3. or is this state completely unconscious?
My very best regards to you Billy:) Derrick salome

--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 19:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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erjk,

The dream state is known as the "ether" where the Conscious is still attached to a physical material body, determined by the condition of ones psyche which interfaces with the subconscious that enables the level of "awareness" in both the dream or remote viewing realms. It is a learning exercise between these attributes for your Conscious.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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2011-01-15T19:02:22Z

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