Talk:Thoughts about "Power" - What we think it is, and the illusion behind.

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Hawaiian 16:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Yes, Power has been associated with the ability to influence others in both positive and negative ways. However as stated in this article, people with power are often unhappy due to materialistic "endeavors" and unbalanced spiritual accomplishments.

In part, due to themselves and their associates living beyond the means of others who can only dream of such excessive materialistic behaviours. These individuals are often unsatisfied with their "accumulations" and "compete" with their peers for more insane "Power" in order to be "accepted" in this exclusive "members only" club of powerful society. Thus, while the rest of the world suffers from wealth and other things being concentrated by a few, they none-the-less still seek more power.

Like some drug addict, these power lustful individuals "need" more power to "satisfy" their insane habit because they don't know or have experienced what hardship is really about. They have no idea of appreciating the finer aspects of life found in simple things rather than extravigences. Therefore in the best interests of those in power, maybe it's best that they "experience" the hardships of others in order to "gain" the necessary experience and knowledge to better understand, then appreciate the finer things in life.

However, such "influences" can only be imparted by those who have a higher spiritual and indeed more power than these people, for their mindset are not disciplined enough to do it themselves, being as power lustful in the first place. So, therefore we have a delimna here, either way, doing nothing from those that have the power is the same as being involved by not doing nothing. Thus it is always true, those who are not part of the solution is part of the problem.

Neckel You are right, thats the principle of self responsibility......but one doesen't need to have a "higher spiritual" sense to do something against the problem,........ if so, you could hand over the responsibility of solving the problem to other fellow men again, we are all in the same mess and are equally responsible for everything. :)) - I actually wanted to say with the article that everyone can work this real kind of power (harmony, calm, inner strength) out by himself, by learning and learning and applying the learned features. - Salome

Are saying that those with a "higher spiritual" sense DO NOT have a responisbility to "assist" in bringing harmony for those oppressed by other "higher beings"? I think not, for Nokodemion has already laid the ground work of intervention from the Arahat spiritual level down to our physical material realm of existence. We can all agree that there are two energies of existence, the fine and coarse matter being "inter-connected or interfaced by intelligent beings, that being the case, then there are also two realms of responsibilities in order to maintain harmony and balance between the negative and positive forces, this being the malevolent verses the benevolent races.

Both of these "higher beings" have been constantly at odds with each other, unfortunately Earth humans being the center of the "battleground" in regards to spiritual evolution. Thus one can say that these beings are not at all innocent of being directly and indirectly responsible for much of the ills and degeneration still going on. For instance it is well documented that evil intelligences have been working to control, disrupt the current Peace Meditation process (men in black trying to have earth humans spiritually kill off world leaders) and of course we all know about the Giza intelligences.

Yes, currently there are some Earth humans that have re-incarnated spirits who share the opinions mentioned above during many episodes of conflicts between these malevolent and benevolent intelligences for times passed. These are the ones that be a driving force for the Plejarens should they consider being in alliance with, for they have the necessary experiences that span the entire episode from the time of the insane Creator overlords creation of manipulated DNA warriors, the former benevolent counter parts of the C.O., then turned malevolent for elevating themselves as gods and creating religions that still degenerate Earth humans...to the ones that destroyed Malona, Atlantis, MU and numerious distruction on Earth.

All these events happened at least over the time period it would have taken the originators to fulfill the necessary 40-60 million year evolution into the current spiritual development of the now High Council resides on. The question remains....if this is true...then violation of Creational laws are acceptable for spiritual evolution...if so, then it sets a dangerous presidence...that not intervening at the proper stage flies in direct contridiction to what Nokodemion has done!

That is the question these "higher" intelligences should at least ponder....meanwhile...Earth humans (re-incarnated spirits) have to take all the responsibilities exclusively and solve this problem ourselves, even though it may be destroyed by malovent forces currently in control of Earth?