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Cameron said ...

I've read that our spirit can only be reborn on the planet our body dies on. What would happen to our rebirth if our planet is destroyed.

--Cameron 21:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Markvd said ...

I am going to venture and guess that we must either wait until a planet reforms in the same vicinity or we are incarnated onto a planet within the confines of the Dern universe which best fits our spiritual development or total development as a being. Don't get any bright ideas and decide to blow up Earth now.:) I came to this possible conclusion from reading about Ashtar and his death in the Dal never to return to the Dern again.

--Markvd 23:15, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

RemRobinson said ...

I think somewhere in the information it says that if an inhabited planet is destroyed, then the spirit-forms move to the next closest planet with life where they can continue their evolution. Any further comments from anyone else?

--RemRobinson 19:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...


Yes, that is true, I think its mentioned in the Goblet of Truth. Also a friend who has close ties to the inner circle once mentioned that not only planets have these memory records, but also galaxies as well.

Incarnation is dependent on the evolutionary level of the spirit and conditions of the planet in question.

--Hawaiian 20:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Bigfoot said ...

Gabriel/a'God whom procreated with Mary/name not falsified had a son named Jmmanuel. Gabriel was a True Human being and Mary was an Earth Degenerate human being. BEAM reincarnated as a pure Earth human this final time as a True Prophet. Were there any times before as a True Prophet that he was pure in breedform?

--Bigfoot 05:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Fraterppehest said ...

i just much excited gettin to know ,learn and practice some mystries i am interesting in . i had long want to know more and get contact the humanlikeforms living in water. we pupolarly call them "mami water". and other seeminglike beings. i hope the knowledge i will recieve shall guide me savely towards this goal. i want to see , communicate with and creat relations with.

--Fraterppehest 13:39, 10 April 2011 (BST)

Stevieo said ...

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--Stevieo 00:11, 17 May 2011 (BST)

Kit Varela said ...

Why not provide a way so that we can learn how to activate their own spiritual abilities faster. Those seeking to step up as spiritual, logical, earth guardians would be able to. They would be able to spread the teachings of creation and spiritual awareness very quickly. This would also have the effect of having thousands of truth prophets all over the world instead of just Billy. (Or is this all possible by following the current available teachings in this section?)

--Kit Varela 23:11, 9 August 2011 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

“Normally” a prophet is selected to disseminate Creational spiritual evolution for its particular planet, the selection process follows certain guidelines to ensure that these teachings are conducive to its inhabitant’s potentials. Such “natural” creational endeavors follow the sequential progressive evolutionary time scale of which 40-60 million years produces humans that evolves into half physical/spiritual Beings and remain there for another 60-80 billion years to evolve further into the pure Arahat Athersata level which is the 1st of 7th level BEING of Petale.

However in the case of Earth, there has been far too many influences, both good and bad, competing against each other often followed by massive destruction that occurred more than once, not to mention other negative genetic disorders induced previously by other advanced ET’s that now is widespread and continues to degrade and handicap Earth humans evolutionary development to this day. To further exacerbate the situation, religions were introduced that have enormous negative factors that enslave one’s progress.

Out of the entire DERN universe, no other planet comes even close to the degree of constant interferences and negative influences than Earth and probably the main reason why Nokodemjion’s spirit form of the Arahat Athersata was altered by the Petale level in other to incarnate into a material physical human being of Billy Meier, a feat never done before because of the serious nature of wanton destruction caused by the peoples he co-created. There are still those who harbor such negative impulses of destruction both Earthly and ET’s as well.

Now the question is asked are there avenues of accelerating the spiritual evolution since all these interferences have and continue to go on as we speak? The logical answer is yes, but depends on one’s particular attributes and equational potentials and most importantly one’s discipline to master his/her 6th and 7th senses and apply the necessary inputs or energy derived from their particular connections and interconnections based on the ability to access one’s memory banks, which in turn also allows access to other connections and interconnections that will NOT be restricted by time/space if spiritual telepathy can be mastered. Such endeavors require to be harmonic in order for these much higher frequencies to resonate within each particular dimensions that will have further harmonic values as one progresses up the evolutionary realms be it from the 1st to 7th and beyond.

For example, we all know that when a physical material being dies, he or she will be separated from their 5 basic senses to also include the (6th and 7th sense which are rarely experienced during one’s life cycle), during the final stages of activity a brief 3 arc seconds which all experiences and knowledge of one’s current personality are “uploaded” into the memory banks at the rate of approximately 300,000 kilo meters or 900,000 kilo meters during a primary telepathy rate, which can also be received by anyone who is emotionally close to this person who can often “hear” or “experience” the same emotion. Spiritual telepathy is NOT restricted by these parameters and “resides” in the 7th sense.

The major question one should ask is “why should I wait until I die in order to experience such an emotion” or why should my loved one die in order to receive such intimate emotions or feeling? Therefore it is prudent for one to develop their 6th and 7th senses and approach these endeavors the same way as when one meditates with a clear sight when engaging or analyzing spiritual teachings, for the intimate answers are all within yourself and not some god or another person. A prophet is there to assist others in formulating the proper path to spiritual evolution, but the ultimate quest of getting there is up to each individual.

Even the Plejarens and High Council are learning as we speak, however spiritual evolution can also be dangerous for there are still those who follow un-creational methods and will not hesitate to do ill will to those striving to endeavor the path of Truthfulness and will try to influence your potentials for their own agendas.

--Hawaiian 03:51, 10 August 2011 (BST)

Sanjin said ...

Kit Varela, it is important to develop ones' ability to concentrate. There are several articles here about concentrations and this ability will not only help a person understand the material faster, but one will generally also become more successful in other areas of life. The people who are having problems learning the teaching presented by Billy are most likely either impaired by religions or they have to work on their attention span.

--Sanjin 14:10, 10 August 2011 (BST)

Kit Varela said ...

Thank you Hawaiian & Sanjin. I will continue the "Concentration Exercises" and putting Billy's Teaching into practice. I have already started to notice improvements in many areas of my life. I was just trying to find a speedier way to connect with my spirit. I feel as if it is the most important thing in my life, it always has but never thought I would have a chance to be truly more spiritual. This is why I was looking for a more intense, advance method being that (other than work and learning from creation) I have a lot of free time. I can't help but feel that time is running out and I need to learn as much as possible before it's is too late.

--Kit Varela 23:11, 10 August 2011 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

It would be helpful if one were aware of their present aura spectrum color frequencies so that they can improve on the positive aspects and reduce the negative colors such a violet (beliefs- religion or ego). I do admit I do not know much about the Kirlian photographic technique that shows the actual colors of one’s aura or have someone like Billy who can actually see these.

In any case scroll down to almost the end of this reference found on this website :

The majority of Earth humans have the lowest evolutionary color aura of pink, due to many negative factors described previously in addition to ones current “inherited” spiritual evolution whether it is similar to the Plejaren’s stage of 30 million plus years because of reincarnation here on Earth, or from other ET’s that also died here or being of the aboriginals or hybrids. Each has its own origins and based on their previous personalities that have given each spirit form its own experiences and knowledge will determine what particular evolutionary condition the spirit has matured or stagnated to. Do not feel discouraged if of aboriginal nature because even Billy acknowledged that many of their practices are aligned with creational values when compared to “modern man” that abuse the environment for greed and profit.

It is this spiritual reference that will determine how fast one processes the inputs being “presented” in logical, balanced form between the material Conscious and Subconscious. True, spirits of lower evolution will have a much more difficult time than those of higher evolution, but the key is in the degree of discipline of the Conscious utilizing its access to the 6th and 7th senses. There is a difference of maturity potentials between a more developed spirit form than from one that is less, but because of interferences that have prevented the “natural evolutionary events, other factors have “emerged” or about to “emerge” into this Equational Potential formulation that is not just material in nature, but may also involve much higher realms as well.

However there is another concept in theory which “resides” in much higher frequency levels where the High Council and Arahat Athersata level have control of, that is the power to determine whether a spirit can reincarnate or not in RESPECT of achieving the proper material environment for other spirits to evolve naturally without interference. Such an event has happened during Nokodemjion’s material transformation when he came from the Arahat Athersata level into the DERN universe again as a material human being but with a spirit of more than 86 billion years of evolution to bring balance and harmony which unfortunately degenerated again soon after he passed on into the reincarnation stages again,

One such example that fits this “theory” is the fact that the same spirit form even after almost two thousand years of reincarnation of numerous personalities still attempts to do evil to not just one prophet of Jmmanuel but also recently to Billy himself. True, one must learn by their mistakes, but to “allow” such an event to occur at this magnitude that has negative consequences not just for these two prophets, but also millions of other humans who depend on their teachings must weigh heavy on those who could have prevented such from happening. We are not responsible for this, but should become aware of because both the internal and external environments are critical for proper spiritual evolutionary growth.

Now keep this in mind because there are also other factors that “may” reside in this realm of existence currently beyond our control, but certainly not beyond those who have the means of resolving such matters in their own particular evolutionary nature

--Hawaiian 23:05, 11 August 2011 (BST)

Zameen said ...

Hawaiian- Well said. You've left me with less to say and more to ponder and contemplate. However, I still dont see the plejaren coming to help in any way differently than the fashion in which they've been helping thus far. Your theories make good sense, are bold, but sometimes I think you are outlining the grounds for their impending "helping hand". Please make no mistake, for I can understand your points and many of your thoughts "stick". I'm involved in a German study group now. Hopefully I can join your spirited, intellectual discussions with a better understanding. Salome!

--Zameen 04:07, 12 August 2011 (BST)

Markvd said ...

I attribute all the color discrepancies due to smoking Ashtar Sheran's favorit pastime. It's hard to take away the smell once it's entrenched itself. No need to fear a little vinegar, water, and sometimes baking soda can help thanks to the power of the internet. You don't want that black tar color or brownish or it's over. :) I think we need more universal spiritual refrigerator organization for better more accurate HD colors with no blurriness.

--Markvd 06:12, 12 August 2011 (BST)