Comments on Contact Report 448
How many dimensions does DERN have?
---- M -- 17:00, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
If Ashtar could shift a portion of time and space to hide as well as the Plejarens in there own dimension where they reside there could be many secrets out there that still be revealed. We have only existed a couple million years as human forms and if Billy says it will tale a ton of lifetimes there is always something new to discover no matter how advanced one is. I believe quintillion or more was specified so there may be all forms of beings out there waiting for a high five from Earth humans.:)
--Markvd 17:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Ptaah should not be too confident in his statements which borders around arrogance since he already admits on two separate occasions that they do not know why their signals are dissolved or reflected back from foreign ET's and that the Plejarens only go 100 years into the future.
1. "Also, we cannot fathom why our signals, if we aim for them, are dissolved or reflected back to us and, thus, do not reach their aircraft; consequently, we cannot establish contact with them, which we also haven’t tried to do for quite some time. With absolute certainty, it is also to be said that the foreigners do not maintain any contacts with the Earth people because our worldwide, all-encompassing detection devices, with which we can also detect the presence of our foreign unknowns, would identify such contacts."
2. "We only operate our past and future travels and previews under certain conditions, but not just to know the distant or most distant future, which is why, if necessary, we limit ourselves to a maximum time of 100 years for future investigation, while no boundaries are set for travels to the past."
--Hawaiian 20:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Please compare this Contact Report 448 to Contact Report 433 which occurred 8 months prior to this report. If the Plejaren technology was the same then as in this report, then Ptaah needs to be more careful in his analysis.
Also as he alludes of leaving Earth to its own when Billy passes on while issues are still being played out here on Earth may also be their undoing if the Plejarens DO NOT pay very close attention to events here that will certainly have effects on them as well.
Contact Report 433 (clock running backwards)
Aug 17 2006
Have you discovered anything new about the fact that such strange things happen to us in the Center, such as things which disappear without a trace, without having someone visible taking them away?
Also, it is indeed inexplicable that Guido's alarm clock regularly runs backwards if he has it here in the Center, but normally runs forwards when he has it at home again.
34. We cannot explain all these incidents either. However, I have a suspicion that any number of human entities from another dimension are making mischief - perhaps out of the terrestrial future, whereby a justification for that, however, appears to be extremely puzzling.
35. But it is also possible that, at the actual present time, secret terrestrial laboratories exist, about which we have no inkling and we cannot find out anything about them, because they are shielded against any electromagnetic vibrations from inwards to outwards and from outwards to inwards in such a way that even our possibilities of finding out and analyzing fail.
36. This is absolutely in the framework of what is possible, because even though we possess an advanced level of technical development, this is geared in a particular way, as is the case with every humanity.
37. Therefore, it is possible that, on the Earth, technical trends, and so forth, are pursued which are even more advanced than our capabilities, such as, for example, that electromagnetic teleportation-vibrations are generated, which initially manifest themselves in the area of their goal and then also disappear again without a trace, without allowing their origin to be determined because no coordinates whatsoever or other traces are able to be pursued and are therefore not verifiable.
--Hawaiian 05:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
My personal opinion, as I said before, the answers lies right in front of the Plejarens all along and the reasons why Nokodemjion choose Earth to incarnate in BEAM, the Earth is the focal point, with various other incarnations throughout the DERN universe along with their respective personalities that link and inter-connect to other dimensions as well all concentrated with the very person who co-created both the Plejarens, Creator Overlords, including Argus the "Barbarian" and others.
It is Nokodemjion, the pure spiritual BEING that is currently incarnated into a material Being, thus if the Plejarens need assistance, they can look no further and seek help from where he came from.
Just my 2 cents, because sometimes it does not hurt to ask, even if one is far in advance to us. After all human compassion retains its validity from a material origins to the pure spiritual as well.
--Hawaiian 05:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
@Ptaah & Billy, Beautifully put!
--Rrozansk 16:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Hawaiian the difference between the two contacts may be that the Plejaren were given new technology that enables them to pierce below the surface. This technology was given to the Plejaren from Asket's people, the Sonaers. Also the renegade Sirians were sent back sometime between these two periods, which may mean that is who they are talking about and who they were unable to establish contact with.
--Sheila 16:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
The renegade MIB located on Mars were arrested by Sirian security forces in 2006, the same year in Contact 433 where Ptaah admits they could not determine who was responsible for odd events occurring at the Center.
Therefore the point is made that the Plejarens should not be too dependent on technology, however advanced and should ask for assistance from higher BEINGS in the pure spiritual levels for matters that even the Plejarens are unable to resolve.
After all, human compassion retains its validity even in the pure spiritual realms and is a valid reason for assistance even though it pertains to material realms.
--Hawaiian 17:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)