https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Redtk21&feedformat=atomFuture Of Mankind - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T23:58:38ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.35.2https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_142&diff=20136Talk:Contact Report 1422013-08-26T11:23:27Z<p>Redtk21: Comment provided by Redtk21 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quite interesting. I am visible only while I exist in this space-time configuration. If I exist in another configuration, I would be invisible or would look like a silhouette. That means Seritanians could not see me clearly, while I sneak into their conference room.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 14:53, 11 August 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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"Time travels, therefore, offer no possibility at all for changing any events, which already happened in the present or future, in the past. "<br />
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Yet him asket and other one went in france and changed the past. Maybe you can't change something big e.g. stop a murder but you can still make few changes like they did since they gave him torch and what not....<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 13:23, 26 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
</div></div>Redtk21https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_114&diff=20097Talk:Contact Report 1142013-08-20T09:56:07Z<p>Redtk21: Comment provided by Redtk21 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal said: "...a female life form, in every respect, can only mate with and become fertilized by one male life form alone, whereas the male life form is able to mate with and fertilize many female life forms, which is truly of necessity for the preservation of the species and for the maintenance or building up of the psyche in a natural law-related manner."<br />
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This statement could be used as a justification for sperm bank, not as a justification for polygamy, because polygamy is not intended to facilitate the preservation of species, but to expand sexual gratification of a man, which is not bad, if it is without coercion and deceit.<br />
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Marriage is not only about fertilization, but about many things which I am not the right person to mention. Fertilization could not be used as the only starting point to contemplate marriage, whether it is monogamy or polygamy.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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...................I guess we know what gender dominates there planets in terms of numbers.:) I would like to know the planet with the lowest amount of inhabitants that needs to be filled immediately. j/k This is a tough one because how about if there is only one man on the planet inhabited by all kinds of women.:) Is it this lucky individuals duty to sve that planet. Then again there is Utah and nations to the East that have many wives. I think that is a complex situation if all those ladies all had a bad day. This is from the male full powered testosterone perspective so ladies don't feel offense. I think one is tough to handle but if you live a thousand year life span that could be a different mentality. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Mark and Markvd (AKA "Two Marks"),<br />
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I heard that the ratio of male and female on this planet in 1990s is 1:3. I wonder if keep on going overpopulation which brings some incarnation cycle disturbances would make the ratio higher, to become 1:4 or 1:5. Even if someday the ratio reaches 1:200, polygamy could not be easily justified without considering some factors which form a marriage.<br />
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I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?<br />
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Utah is not interesting. I prefer celibacy than mormonistic polygamy, if you asked me.<br />
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Anyone who has been living for thousands of years (such as Gilgamesh) must have a different mentality than most of the present Earth people, especially mentality on passion, mentality on beauty, and mentality on eroticity. <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Typing speed is calculated in wpm not letters, so what is 1,200 and 1,300 letters per minute ???<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 09:49, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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It's important to know that Plejaren have strict scientific tests (taking as long as 2 hours) - before they're allowed to marry a wife or a husband...<br />
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"I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?"<br />
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If on the planet they follow the laws and recommendations of Creation neither one should happen.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:07, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Redtk21 (Karl ?),<br />
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Do you know that mister Billy has only one arm ?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 10:21, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Yes why?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:51, 19 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Do you know that his right arm consists of 5 fingers?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 07:39, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Whatever I said is my opinion... <br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:59, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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If you have a problem with me don't be afraid to state clearly what it is...<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:02, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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In case you wonder why sometimes I use Karl & Jack as my name it's because I have many websites online under different pen names - real name is Karl<br />
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Other than that don't have a clue what your problem is?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:16, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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and this: "(taking as long as 2 hours)" should be: "(taking as long as 2 years)"<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:56, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
</div></div>Redtk21https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_114&diff=20096Talk:Contact Report 1142013-08-20T09:16:16Z<p>Redtk21: Comment provided by Redtk21 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal said: "...a female life form, in every respect, can only mate with and become fertilized by one male life form alone, whereas the male life form is able to mate with and fertilize many female life forms, which is truly of necessity for the preservation of the species and for the maintenance or building up of the psyche in a natural law-related manner."<br />
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This statement could be used as a justification for sperm bank, not as a justification for polygamy, because polygamy is not intended to facilitate the preservation of species, but to expand sexual gratification of a man, which is not bad, if it is without coercion and deceit.<br />
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Marriage is not only about fertilization, but about many things which I am not the right person to mention. Fertilization could not be used as the only starting point to contemplate marriage, whether it is monogamy or polygamy.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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...................I guess we know what gender dominates there planets in terms of numbers.:) I would like to know the planet with the lowest amount of inhabitants that needs to be filled immediately. j/k This is a tough one because how about if there is only one man on the planet inhabited by all kinds of women.:) Is it this lucky individuals duty to sve that planet. Then again there is Utah and nations to the East that have many wives. I think that is a complex situation if all those ladies all had a bad day. This is from the male full powered testosterone perspective so ladies don't feel offense. I think one is tough to handle but if you live a thousand year life span that could be a different mentality. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Mark and Markvd (AKA "Two Marks"),<br />
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I heard that the ratio of male and female on this planet in 1990s is 1:3. I wonder if keep on going overpopulation which brings some incarnation cycle disturbances would make the ratio higher, to become 1:4 or 1:5. Even if someday the ratio reaches 1:200, polygamy could not be easily justified without considering some factors which form a marriage.<br />
<br />
I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?<br />
<br />
Utah is not interesting. I prefer celibacy than mormonistic polygamy, if you asked me.<br />
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Anyone who has been living for thousands of years (such as Gilgamesh) must have a different mentality than most of the present Earth people, especially mentality on passion, mentality on beauty, and mentality on eroticity. <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Typing speed is calculated in wpm not letters, so what is 1,200 and 1,300 letters per minute ???<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 09:49, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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It's important to know that Plejaren have strict scientific tests (taking as long as 2 hours) - before they're allowed to marry a wife or a husband...<br />
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"I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?"<br />
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If on the planet they follow the laws and recommendations of Creation neither one should happen.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:07, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Redtk21 (Karl ?),<br />
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Do you know that mister Billy has only one arm ?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 10:21, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Yes why?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:51, 19 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Do you know that his right arm consists of 5 fingers?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 07:39, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Whatever I said is my opinion... <br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:59, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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If you have a problem with me don't be afraid to state clearly what it is...<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:02, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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In case you wonder why sometimes I use Karl & Jack as my name it's because I have many websites online under different pen names - real name is Karl<br />
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Other than that don't have a clue what your problem is?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:16, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal said: "...a female life form, in every respect, can only mate with and become fertilized by one male life form alone, whereas the male life form is able to mate with and fertilize many female life forms, which is truly of necessity for the preservation of the species and for the maintenance or building up of the psyche in a natural law-related manner."<br />
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This statement could be used as a justification for sperm bank, not as a justification for polygamy, because polygamy is not intended to facilitate the preservation of species, but to expand sexual gratification of a man, which is not bad, if it is without coercion and deceit.<br />
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Marriage is not only about fertilization, but about many things which I am not the right person to mention. Fertilization could not be used as the only starting point to contemplate marriage, whether it is monogamy or polygamy.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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...................I guess we know what gender dominates there planets in terms of numbers.:) I would like to know the planet with the lowest amount of inhabitants that needs to be filled immediately. j/k This is a tough one because how about if there is only one man on the planet inhabited by all kinds of women.:) Is it this lucky individuals duty to sve that planet. Then again there is Utah and nations to the East that have many wives. I think that is a complex situation if all those ladies all had a bad day. This is from the male full powered testosterone perspective so ladies don't feel offense. I think one is tough to handle but if you live a thousand year life span that could be a different mentality. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Mark and Markvd (AKA "Two Marks"),<br />
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I heard that the ratio of male and female on this planet in 1990s is 1:3. I wonder if keep on going overpopulation which brings some incarnation cycle disturbances would make the ratio higher, to become 1:4 or 1:5. Even if someday the ratio reaches 1:200, polygamy could not be easily justified without considering some factors which form a marriage.<br />
<br />
I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?<br />
<br />
Utah is not interesting. I prefer celibacy than mormonistic polygamy, if you asked me.<br />
<br />
Anyone who has been living for thousands of years (such as Gilgamesh) must have a different mentality than most of the present Earth people, especially mentality on passion, mentality on beauty, and mentality on eroticity. <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Typing speed is calculated in wpm not letters, so what is 1,200 and 1,300 letters per minute ???<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 09:49, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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It's important to know that Plejaren have strict scientific tests (taking as long as 2 hours) - before they're allowed to marry a wife or a husband...<br />
<br />
"I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?"<br />
<br />
If on the planet they follow the laws and recommendations of Creation neither one should happen.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:07, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Redtk21 (Karl ?),<br />
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Do you know that mister Billy has only one arm ?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 10:21, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Yes why?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:51, 19 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Do you know that his right arm consists of 5 fingers?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 07:39, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Whatever I said is my opinion... <br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:59, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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If you have a problem with me don't be afraid to state clearly what it is...<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:02, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal said: "...a female life form, in every respect, can only mate with and become fertilized by one male life form alone, whereas the male life form is able to mate with and fertilize many female life forms, which is truly of necessity for the preservation of the species and for the maintenance or building up of the psyche in a natural law-related manner."<br />
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This statement could be used as a justification for sperm bank, not as a justification for polygamy, because polygamy is not intended to facilitate the preservation of species, but to expand sexual gratification of a man, which is not bad, if it is without coercion and deceit.<br />
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Marriage is not only about fertilization, but about many things which I am not the right person to mention. Fertilization could not be used as the only starting point to contemplate marriage, whether it is monogamy or polygamy.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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...................I guess we know what gender dominates there planets in terms of numbers.:) I would like to know the planet with the lowest amount of inhabitants that needs to be filled immediately. j/k This is a tough one because how about if there is only one man on the planet inhabited by all kinds of women.:) Is it this lucky individuals duty to sve that planet. Then again there is Utah and nations to the East that have many wives. I think that is a complex situation if all those ladies all had a bad day. This is from the male full powered testosterone perspective so ladies don't feel offense. I think one is tough to handle but if you live a thousand year life span that could be a different mentality. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Mark and Markvd (AKA "Two Marks"),<br />
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I heard that the ratio of male and female on this planet in 1990s is 1:3. I wonder if keep on going overpopulation which brings some incarnation cycle disturbances would make the ratio higher, to become 1:4 or 1:5. Even if someday the ratio reaches 1:200, polygamy could not be easily justified without considering some factors which form a marriage.<br />
<br />
I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?<br />
<br />
Utah is not interesting. I prefer celibacy than mormonistic polygamy, if you asked me.<br />
<br />
Anyone who has been living for thousands of years (such as Gilgamesh) must have a different mentality than most of the present Earth people, especially mentality on passion, mentality on beauty, and mentality on eroticity. <br />
<br />
--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Typing speed is calculated in wpm not letters, so what is 1,200 and 1,300 letters per minute ???<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 09:49, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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It's important to know that Plejaren have strict scientific tests (taking as long as 2 hours) - before they're allowed to marry a wife or a husband...<br />
<br />
"I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?"<br />
<br />
If on the planet they follow the laws and recommendations of Creation neither one should happen.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:07, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Redtk21 (Karl ?),<br />
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Do you know that mister Billy has only one arm ?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 10:21, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Yes why?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:51, 19 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Do you know that his right arm consists of 5 fingers?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 07:39, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Whatever I said is my opinion... <br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:59, 20 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
</div></div>Redtk21https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_120&diff=20091Talk:Contact Report 1202013-08-19T10:17:04Z<p>Redtk21: Comment provided by Redtk21 - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal: <br />
46. Through her conduct, she not only hurts ______, but she also treats ______ disparagingly. <br />
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I think Elsi ____________________________________________.<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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lol<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 12:17, 19 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal said: "...a female life form, in every respect, can only mate with and become fertilized by one male life form alone, whereas the male life form is able to mate with and fertilize many female life forms, which is truly of necessity for the preservation of the species and for the maintenance or building up of the psyche in a natural law-related manner."<br />
<br />
This statement could be used as a justification for sperm bank, not as a justification for polygamy, because polygamy is not intended to facilitate the preservation of species, but to expand sexual gratification of a man, which is not bad, if it is without coercion and deceit.<br />
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Marriage is not only about fertilization, but about many things which I am not the right person to mention. Fertilization could not be used as the only starting point to contemplate marriage, whether it is monogamy or polygamy.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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...................I guess we know what gender dominates there planets in terms of numbers.:) I would like to know the planet with the lowest amount of inhabitants that needs to be filled immediately. j/k This is a tough one because how about if there is only one man on the planet inhabited by all kinds of women.:) Is it this lucky individuals duty to sve that planet. Then again there is Utah and nations to the East that have many wives. I think that is a complex situation if all those ladies all had a bad day. This is from the male full powered testosterone perspective so ladies don't feel offense. I think one is tough to handle but if you live a thousand year life span that could be a different mentality. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Mark and Markvd (AKA "Two Marks"),<br />
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I heard that the ratio of male and female on this planet in 1990s is 1:3. I wonder if keep on going overpopulation which brings some incarnation cycle disturbances would make the ratio higher, to become 1:4 or 1:5. Even if someday the ratio reaches 1:200, polygamy could not be easily justified without considering some factors which form a marriage.<br />
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I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?<br />
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Utah is not interesting. I prefer celibacy than mormonistic polygamy, if you asked me.<br />
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Anyone who has been living for thousands of years (such as Gilgamesh) must have a different mentality than most of the present Earth people, especially mentality on passion, mentality on beauty, and mentality on eroticity. <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Typing speed is calculated in wpm not letters, so what is 1,200 and 1,300 letters per minute ???<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 09:49, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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It's important to know that Plejaren have strict scientific tests (taking as long as 2 hours) - before they're allowed to marry a wife or a husband...<br />
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"I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?"<br />
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If on the planet they follow the laws and recommendations of Creation neither one should happen.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:07, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Redtk21 (Karl ?),<br />
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Do you know that mister Billy has only one arm ?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 10:21, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Yes why?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:51, 19 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Billy:<br />
[...] where the material thoughts of the material consciousness reach, at most, simply the speed of light. <br />
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If tomorrow the speed of light drastically decrease to be just 20 kilometer persecond, is that mean tomorrow I will think slower (become dumber) than I do today?<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 20:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Never under estimate Billy’s potentials, what is interesting are the fact that spiritual telepathy travels across this DERN universe in an instant which is the same as: 10 x 7000 light years per second.<br />
(Only applies to normal space but not to para-space, in which the speed is indefinite, therefore = 10^7000 Light = 10^7000 x 299,792.5 km/sec.)<br />
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Since the first creation initiated, light traveled 147 times faster (44,069,497.5 km/sec) than today’s speed of roughly 300,000 km/sec and that it continued to expand for 155,519,999,999,989 years (1/2 of 311,040,000,000,000 years) before contracting or slowing down to it’s present speed of 299,792.5 km/sec.<br />
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Then the DERN universe must be over 155 trillion years old!<br />
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That explains why a ship needs to accelerate much faster than the current speed of light in order to “time-shift” into the pass because the speed of light then was faster than today. This ship must be traveling in hyperspace with tachyons flowing around it beyond current light speed. It must also locate exactly where the desired time/space event is, in order to arrive at that particular area of interest.<br />
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Then to go into the future this ship must travel in normal space while the flow of chronos around it are below current light speed parameters, I think time to make some travel reservations.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Moral of the story don't cut down old trees and study more about phenylethylamine and how we can have a criminal free world. :) <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 04:16, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Phenyl ethylamine (toxin) is a major ingredient in weight loss drugs similar to amphetamines (cocaine, speed or uppers) and is a releasing agent of norepinephrine and dopamine which are neural transmitters that plays a major factor in human aggressiveness, thus related to crimes.<br />
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We used to run experiments on lab rats, injecting them with various drugs including amphetamine in one case killed a number of them during experimentation. Found out later during the autopsy all had massive brain hemorrhaging and was the most aggressive rats during testing.<br />
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With the $billions of worth of drugs which are mostly in this category currently being consumed by Americans, one can understand why this nation is dangerous to others including themselves.<br />
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I think the moral of this Contact Report is the initial display of arrogance between Ptaah and Quetzal towards Billy’s questions on his speed of light/universe expansion rate calculations in which Semjase played a major role in supporting him. Both of them finally accepted Billy’s findings as phenomena; however Quetzal still harbored second thoughts assuming Billy got his calculations from the memory bank which was not true.<br />
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How would the outcome be if not for a women’s point-of-view, in this case Semjase? I think if there were only 3 males present, nothing constructive would have transpired; yes this Universe would have been a very different place indeed, probably unfit for civilization if only males were to be in charge..ha ha. <br />
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Yes, the process of Creation cannot have harmony if one is missing be it male or female so long as there is no “ball & chain” around your ankles!<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 05:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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Time and Space are not two but rather one or Unity. Expansion and contraction are not two but rather one or Unity. When we sleep our thoughts contract and when we are awake our thoughts expand. <br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 05:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian,<br />
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You wrote: "10 x 7000 light years per second"<br />
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I want to provide a clarification, in case others aren't sure of what 10^7000 means.<br />
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10^7000 is not 10 x 7000. Rather, it is 10 to the 7000th power, which is 10 multiplied by itself 7,000 times, which produces a result of a 1 followed by 7,000 zeros!<br />
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So we're looking at much larger figures, my friend. :)<br />
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Regards.<br />
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 14:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi All, would it be okay for me to provide the "ball & chain", lol? Since phenylethylamine is a combination of benzene with an aminoethyl group, I would think the solution would be to get rid of the benzene in your body. After looking everywhere, no one seems to offer a solution. I've been using Bodi Detox foot pads for years now, and it's able to draw out heavy metals from the body including benzene. The pads can be taken to any lab to see the results. You can also test the amount of benzene in your body by testing a hair sample. Benzene not only comes from drugs, it comes from smoking, vehicle exhaust, plastic containers, paint, solvents and is a known carcinogen. It would be pointless to say that ONLY drug users have phenylethylamine in their systems when everyone is contaminated.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Thanks Benjamin for the clarification, I had a "pricky" feeling about that figure initially, probably my intuition sense, but could not figure how to put that exponent symbol, that is why the 10 x 7000 was used.<br />
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And Sheila, Aloha..good idea on the heavy metal extraction method, got to try it one day.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 17:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Francis T said ... ==<br />
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If you have just come across 'Billy' Then thank your lucky stars because there is a great deal of wisdom to be found in anything he has written. Read the Goblet of Truth, it's astounding and the most sensible spiritual document I have ever read and I have read most. If you are a scientist then it is defiantly for you.<br />
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--[[User:Francis T|Francis T]] 20:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Francis, I totally agree with you!<br />
Hi Hawaiian, I don't know how I managed to forget this treatment that deals with both radiation and heavy metals:<br />
http://www.theyfly.com/Modifilan.htm<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 21:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Benjamine, Sheila and others;<br />
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Here is the link to FIGU spiritual summary that has allot of information I used to post on this subject, it also contains (in red highlight) the actual spiritual telepathy speed in this DERN universe and other interesting data when using Billy's figures comes extremely accurate to the various evolution of universes!<br />
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/4224.html?1162333621<br />
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Just amazing.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 22:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Is the amount of energy released in expanding period as much as the energy pulled in contracting period? Is it possible some portions of DERN's energy leak into another universe? Or vice versa?<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The arrogance is in your judgment because it lacks logic Hawaiian.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 18:16, 12 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Bigfoot,<br />
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Speak for yourself because a$$holes do not recognize themselves when looking into a mirror! Have people ever pondered why this Earth for the last 2000 years have engaged in warfare for over 90 percent of the time?<br />
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Simply because its "leadership" is dominated by power-lustful foolish human males obsessed with ego and stupidity just like how some of the guys posting on this site, proclaiming to know so much about BEAM's mission, yet offer very little worth while that even resembles some sort of "evolutionary" process.<br />
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Very little of his material are "processed" using ones own logic, but instead attack others who bring a different point of view which is why each is unique in order to continue creation's evolution. Maybe if that's too difficult to you to understand then shut TFU and provide a reasonable contribution which requires self-discipline because you are no better than those that attack Billy, but hide behind some personal agenda one perceives as evolving.<br />
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Many of my posts require logical thinking beyond the written format for those that can uncover it and for those that can’t or even worse, won’t, then the reaction is what you witnessed on more than a few occasions, immature one-word or sentence knee-jerk impulse attacks. The same reaction one would expect from some emotional disturbed spoiled rotten kid.<br />
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Offer some constructive counter-arguments since now your ego must be surely agitated in order to focus all that energy into something useful!<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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Where is the justice in your ranting?<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 04:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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After everything Hawaiian... when you put down my Plejaren friends , I think you should walk away for you damage the mission in high degree.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 04:54, 13 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Here's an error, the speed of light is not 299,792.5 kilometers per second but <br />
299 792 458 m / s<br />
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(meters per second) wtf?<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 11:38, 19 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Who has the most wives of all Plejaren males? Who is Mr. Monogamy personified. I read they date for 2 years before marriage so was it tough dating all those babes at the same time or as time passed more wives joined the team.:) Universal clarification please for future planetary wife seeking adventures of a multiuniversal kind.<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Ptaah:<br />
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41. That is of correctness, my friend, and that's exactly why also the secret service agent _______ of the ______ secret service was delegated to address you about the data relating to this and about the possibility of our help.<br />
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Ptaah:<br />
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42. It would be very unwise if I didn't look after these matters and, hence, didn't know that the _______ secret service turned to you through _______, upon which you, as we expected, only responded evasively, however. <br />
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Alive:<br />
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This is bull_____ . It is better to wipe the sentences out than present them like that. I have no time to guess the censored words. I prefer to spend my time tonight by watching ______ movies which although will not make me wiser, could make me a little bit warmer.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 13:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)It is not bull, but very significant coming from none other than the Plejaren leader himself, Paath and further acknowledging that the American secret service is taking BEAM's mission very seriously! Whether they are more interested in countering the Russians to remain at the apex of world domination or for humanity reasons, I leave that up to you to decide.<br />
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Also, it is in the best interests for the Plejarens NOT to engage in any ongoing classified events on Earth that will endanger their as well as Billy's mission, which is to raise the Consciousness of Truth for ALL Earth beings.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Evila, I guess that's your opinion, but it sure isn't mine. It's not hard to figure out what names go in those blanks.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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This is a very significant contact report. From lines 167 to 191 it can be understood that the spirit teaching is going to be mostly ignored by the majority of Earth humans, but in the year 2075, Billy's spirit form will reincarnate into a personality that will start to help spread the spirit teaching in a very significant form around the world. I'll be 100 years old in 2075 :D if I live that long. I hope to live to 120 so I can see that happen although I might be a little senile by then.<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:28, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Perhaps 120 years isnt long enough. I'd be better off dying in 2050 then coming back in 2100 to grow up during the after effects. When would you like to reincarnate?<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I know what you mean, Jamesm, but look deeper into what Quetzal says about the Creational Laws (which somewhat counters a previous posting by Semjase's account?) that do allow for alterations by Billy. Therefore, one can strive to learn beyond these predictions or prophecies and concentrate on your current Awareness, making the proper connections to your currently evolved status and elevate it. I will love to summarize many of these materials, but don't need to spend my time and energy on immature responses as evidenced in recent postings. As a matter of fact, sometimes I feel it is not worth it.<br />
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However, there are things or events that cannot be discussed in public forums which are reserved for much higher evolved realms of existence as the dangers for abuse is always present, especially in the current power-lust, greedy environment, where human life is of no consequences.<br />
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Quetzal:<br />
35. Everything in it is described, presented, and explained very much better than what would have been possible for me to do.<br />
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36. However, you should modify certain things a little, in the sense that you interweave some values, which have been worked out for you all by the High Council for a long time in accordance with earthly values.<br />
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37. The giving of laws and commandments - you should absolutely work these into your work, which then requires, however - as said - some changes in reference to transpositions.<br />
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38. If it is opportune for you, then I can transmit these laws and commandments to you tomorrow, so that you don't come into default with your work relating to this.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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The key to longevity on Earth I beleive resides in Japan they seem to have the most 100 + folks other than Gilgamesh who is beyond comprehension for us. I will now begin a Sushi mission and see if it works for me:) <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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Asket mentioned 2011 as a ww3 possibility.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 03:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian,<br />
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I do not know whose idea it is to censor this Contact Report, but I could say, based on my reasoning alone, that it is not Billy's. He has no fear of any secret service and its toy soldiers. <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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Are you truly confident that you know what names go in the blanks? If so, what are they? I, for one, cannot figure it out. Thanks.<br />
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 13:48, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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WW3 possibility in 2011 via Asket mobile direct from DAL universe has to be serious stuff thanks Bigfoot. Did she say who the main culprits are and why do we have dangerous toys in the hands of people with low logic comprehension HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Don't tell me it's used to defend themselves from space invaders because after watching Skyline the Aliens would laugh at our pathetic weapons which we use to destroy ourselves with. How clumsy does that sound.:)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 22:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Benjamin, well as far as I can guess I would say it's Israeli and Kal Korff or could it be USA and George Greene? As far as Alive's blank goes, I have no idea, lol.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:08, 30 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==<br />
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Hi Sheila,<br />
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Thanks for the reply; although, I'm not so sure that either Kal Korff or George Green are or ever were secret service agents, and Korff certainly wouldn't have been looking for the Plejarens' help. Concerning Alive's 2 blank spaces - unfortunately, I think I know very well what goes in both of them. As such, it is probably better that both spaces remain blank. :)<br />
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 13:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Sheila, Benjamin S, James M, Hawaiian, Two Marks, humanoids all over DERN universe,<br />
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Let us keep my blank spaces as they are, so the future readers of the Contact Report 115 and its discussion board could stare at the blank spaces, contemplate about them, and fill the spaces with the words which reflect their thoughts and feelings, not mine. Tonight I will watch fireworks and bless the future readers, so they could see what I have failed to see and understand the things which are inconceivable for me.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 13:49, 31 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Yes lets.<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 15:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian had a problem posting so here is his post that he emailed to me :<br />
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Nothing useful to comment on, except your twisting of reality that the truth is the majority of people posting DO NOT use their intuition in UTILIZING Billy's materials in order to find their "fit" in this whole episode of events. Instead it’s mostly repeat, cut/paste, consume and excrete without much digestion in order to EVOLVE past the comprehensive stages...it’s the spirit that dwells which suffers...having to deal with practically little or no progress from the present personality.<br />
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Someone had to make it clear of events so others realize that discipline is a bad tasting, but good medicine, I really don't care what others say about me, so long as the Truth is announced! Apparently emotions get the better and people should analyze what have been posted, much energy and thought have been invested and hidden meanings are deliberately embedded for those with the capacity to endeavor deeper.<br />
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Besides, the Equational Potential formulas introduced are not just for Earthly matters, but also cover the paradoxes for the Plejaren, Creator Overlords and others. Its just the fact that the majority of Earthly humans do not yet understand its applications, because they have not realized their "fit" in this most complex equation of sorts, besides also the technology does not currently exist (however the Plejaren have it) to do a thorough investigation that spans space/time personalities and dimensions.<br />
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It will become clear in due time, however one does not need to despair for the connections are all evident in BEAM's materials, it just needs to be clarified into some logical format in order to be more digestible for most. <br />
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One has to realize that the Plejaren themselves still have allot to learn and experience, neither are they perfect nor the message they bring are perfect either. They have done a few blunders here on Earth and probably will do more in the future, hopefully it will not cause the total destruction of Earth for they should heed Nokodemjion’s example.<br />
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What would each of you logically think about the fact that a BEING in the pure spiritual state of Arahat Athersata level, where all are “linked” and that if one BEING acknowledged an idea or energy “thought”, instantly all other BEINGS share it amongst “themselves” because of this spiritual link.<br />
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Now think about this, since Nokodemjion is the co-creator of the Lyrian and other white races that plundered the DERN universe while his spirit was in the Arahat Athersata realm and for that reason was responsible, thus connected or linked to this travesty which, if left uncorrected, would it not also “contaminate” the other BEINGS in this respective spiritual realm as well?<br />
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Thus, it would be wise for those that abuse others that although one may get away with it for some time at least in the material realm (maybe not?), your evolutionary attributes may not be valid accordingly to the Equational Potentials and one of the reasons (besides wars) why after almost 7 billion years, the Lyrian and other races Nokodemjion co-created are still not even at the half/spiritual realms of the High Council which is initiated between 40-60 million years of evolution.<br />
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These are the kind of questions one should ask, for your as well as your past, current and future depends on it to bring accountability for all concerned.<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:26, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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221. That may not be true, for you will actually not be the biological father but will only take over the father's role after the birth of the descendant.<br />
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Could anyone tell me the name of the child and the name of biological father? <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 12:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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I think the troll should be banned until he reads at least the first four chapters of the Goblet of Truth. And you know who you are - you're not Maxim, you're currently at Minimum.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 17:46, 5 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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What is it? Do you want to feel my anger again? Did it turn you on? B----.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 18:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well you sure are full of yourself, aren't you?<br />
I'm afraid I didn't feel your anger last time so you might have to try harder this time. So come on, get it all out, let us all know the real you.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 00:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Keep on dreaming, psycho.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 01:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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Internal inbalance of one should be that person's primary concern not yours although it may be in your nuture nature's quest to assist others in need, your primary attributes are also endeavored in assisting your incarnated spirit.<br />
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One that does not nuture their spirit does not have the right to expect others to do so (free will) at the expense of their own spirit as far as evolution is concerned. Only in cases of self-destruction of others adhering to creational laws, does intervention become necessary.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 22:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Zameen said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian. Aloha, I must agree.<br />
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Hawaiian, so does that mean those not adhering to creational laws, you don't have to help?<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:12, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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The Plejarens have intervened on several occasions on Earth by scientists who tried to experiment with a weapon that would have vaporized this planet in minutes. One another event where ET’s were leaving their solar systems (16 planets) due to some cosmic disturbances and planned to invade and kill off inhabitants of other worlds including Earth in order to live there, the Plejarens intervened and found new uninhabited worlds for them to live on.<br />
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These are a few examples of necessary intervention in order to counter-balance Uncreational endeavors which pose dangers not just for the negative initiators, but also those that adhere to Creational laws.<br />
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Now to answer your question about “not helping” those that do not adhere to Creational Laws, you have a point. I should have been more concise and applied that statement to CURRENT affairs at hand. <br />
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Due to our present technological limitations in addressing these issues and the fact that enormous amounts of time, energy and resources and toil that are required in order just to make a dent of improvement, if any to one that DOES NOT adhere to Creational laws (in cases like schizophrenic, psychotic, delusional and multiple personality disorders often brought about through unsupervised contact with entities of the ether state) or in most cases, not living a balanced life.<br />
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The Plejarens specifically does not recommend attempts to make contact with these “entities” as most are not evolved enough to prove satisfactory and often engage in deception as well.<br />
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Now, back on track, unless one is professionally trained in these matters and does not mind investing all that time and energy in “fixing” such internal imbalances, which by the way also require enormous amounts of commitment on the patient’s part, one has to evaluate this entire scenario. Does it really makes a whole lot of sense even attempting to resolve such issues, what are the success rate and if any, how long does it lasts without constant supervision or drug medication?<br />
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Then after all this has been done, considering the sum of investments incurred, would have it been wiser to have invested this energy toward the evolution of one’s own spirit which obviously took a serious toil? It may sound self fish, in a sense; however is it not also selfish on the part of those engaging in such uncreational activities to expect another human being to make the erfuhlen? (Not sacrifice) on their behalf and at the expense of one’s own spiritual evolution?<br />
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These are difficult questions indeed, but maybe in a more conducive environment where technology can be of a deciding factor in cases like these, then we can apply such measures in “korrektieren”? <br />
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So the deciding factor one has to make is it really worth your time, energy and resources to commit to another? That is your free will to endeavor and if one decides on that route, then that is your decision to do so. Maybe the spirit will incarnate in a better personality, who knows?<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Hawaiian, I cannot argue with that.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 21:13, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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who is the child they're talking about? <br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 12:53, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Allah. said ... ==<br />
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Redtk21 (Karl ?),<br />
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Have you ever heard about Atlant Bieri?<br />
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--[[User:Allah.|Allah.]] ([[User talk:Allah.|talk]]), Endless Desert, 09:25, 17 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Ok, thanks!<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 08:56, 18 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Who has the most wives of all Plejaren males? Who is Mr. Monogamy personified. I read they date for 2 years before marriage so was it tough dating all those babes at the same time or as time passed more wives joined the team.:) Universal clarification please for future planetary wife seeking adventures of a multiuniversal kind.<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Ptaah:<br />
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41. That is of correctness, my friend, and that's exactly why also the secret service agent _______ of the ______ secret service was delegated to address you about the data relating to this and about the possibility of our help.<br />
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Ptaah:<br />
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42. It would be very unwise if I didn't look after these matters and, hence, didn't know that the _______ secret service turned to you through _______, upon which you, as we expected, only responded evasively, however. <br />
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Alive:<br />
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This is bull_____ . It is better to wipe the sentences out than present them like that. I have no time to guess the censored words. I prefer to spend my time tonight by watching ______ movies which although will not make me wiser, could make me a little bit warmer.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 13:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)It is not bull, but very significant coming from none other than the Plejaren leader himself, Paath and further acknowledging that the American secret service is taking BEAM's mission very seriously! Whether they are more interested in countering the Russians to remain at the apex of world domination or for humanity reasons, I leave that up to you to decide.<br />
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Also, it is in the best interests for the Plejarens NOT to engage in any ongoing classified events on Earth that will endanger their as well as Billy's mission, which is to raise the Consciousness of Truth for ALL Earth beings.<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Evila, I guess that's your opinion, but it sure isn't mine. It's not hard to figure out what names go in those blanks.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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This is a very significant contact report. From lines 167 to 191 it can be understood that the spirit teaching is going to be mostly ignored by the majority of Earth humans, but in the year 2075, Billy's spirit form will reincarnate into a personality that will start to help spread the spirit teaching in a very significant form around the world. I'll be 100 years old in 2075 :D if I live that long. I hope to live to 120 so I can see that happen although I might be a little senile by then.<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:28, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Perhaps 120 years isnt long enough. I'd be better off dying in 2050 then coming back in 2100 to grow up during the after effects. When would you like to reincarnate?<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I know what you mean, Jamesm, but look deeper into what Quetzal says about the Creational Laws (which somewhat counters a previous posting by Semjase's account?) that do allow for alterations by Billy. Therefore, one can strive to learn beyond these predictions or prophecies and concentrate on your current Awareness, making the proper connections to your currently evolved status and elevate it. I will love to summarize many of these materials, but don't need to spend my time and energy on immature responses as evidenced in recent postings. As a matter of fact, sometimes I feel it is not worth it.<br />
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However, there are things or events that cannot be discussed in public forums which are reserved for much higher evolved realms of existence as the dangers for abuse is always present, especially in the current power-lust, greedy environment, where human life is of no consequences.<br />
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Quetzal:<br />
35. Everything in it is described, presented, and explained very much better than what would have been possible for me to do.<br />
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36. However, you should modify certain things a little, in the sense that you interweave some values, which have been worked out for you all by the High Council for a long time in accordance with earthly values.<br />
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37. The giving of laws and commandments - you should absolutely work these into your work, which then requires, however - as said - some changes in reference to transpositions.<br />
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38. If it is opportune for you, then I can transmit these laws and commandments to you tomorrow, so that you don't come into default with your work relating to this.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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The key to longevity on Earth I beleive resides in Japan they seem to have the most 100 + folks other than Gilgamesh who is beyond comprehension for us. I will now begin a Sushi mission and see if it works for me:) <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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Asket mentioned 2011 as a ww3 possibility.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 03:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian,<br />
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I do not know whose idea it is to censor this Contact Report, but I could say, based on my reasoning alone, that it is not Billy's. He has no fear of any secret service and its toy soldiers. <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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Are you truly confident that you know what names go in the blanks? If so, what are they? I, for one, cannot figure it out. Thanks.<br />
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 13:48, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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WW3 possibility in 2011 via Asket mobile direct from DAL universe has to be serious stuff thanks Bigfoot. Did she say who the main culprits are and why do we have dangerous toys in the hands of people with low logic comprehension HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Don't tell me it's used to defend themselves from space invaders because after watching Skyline the Aliens would laugh at our pathetic weapons which we use to destroy ourselves with. How clumsy does that sound.:)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 22:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Benjamin, well as far as I can guess I would say it's Israeli and Kal Korff or could it be USA and George Greene? As far as Alive's blank goes, I have no idea, lol.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:08, 30 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==<br />
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Hi Sheila,<br />
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Thanks for the reply; although, I'm not so sure that either Kal Korff or George Green are or ever were secret service agents, and Korff certainly wouldn't have been looking for the Plejarens' help. Concerning Alive's 2 blank spaces - unfortunately, I think I know very well what goes in both of them. As such, it is probably better that both spaces remain blank. :)<br />
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 13:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Sheila, Benjamin S, James M, Hawaiian, Two Marks, humanoids all over DERN universe,<br />
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Let us keep my blank spaces as they are, so the future readers of the Contact Report 115 and its discussion board could stare at the blank spaces, contemplate about them, and fill the spaces with the words which reflect their thoughts and feelings, not mine. Tonight I will watch fireworks and bless the future readers, so they could see what I have failed to see and understand the things which are inconceivable for me.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 13:49, 31 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Yes lets.<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 15:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian had a problem posting so here is his post that he emailed to me :<br />
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Nothing useful to comment on, except your twisting of reality that the truth is the majority of people posting DO NOT use their intuition in UTILIZING Billy's materials in order to find their "fit" in this whole episode of events. Instead it’s mostly repeat, cut/paste, consume and excrete without much digestion in order to EVOLVE past the comprehensive stages...it’s the spirit that dwells which suffers...having to deal with practically little or no progress from the present personality.<br />
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Someone had to make it clear of events so others realize that discipline is a bad tasting, but good medicine, I really don't care what others say about me, so long as the Truth is announced! Apparently emotions get the better and people should analyze what have been posted, much energy and thought have been invested and hidden meanings are deliberately embedded for those with the capacity to endeavor deeper.<br />
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Besides, the Equational Potential formulas introduced are not just for Earthly matters, but also cover the paradoxes for the Plejaren, Creator Overlords and others. Its just the fact that the majority of Earthly humans do not yet understand its applications, because they have not realized their "fit" in this most complex equation of sorts, besides also the technology does not currently exist (however the Plejaren have it) to do a thorough investigation that spans space/time personalities and dimensions.<br />
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It will become clear in due time, however one does not need to despair for the connections are all evident in BEAM's materials, it just needs to be clarified into some logical format in order to be more digestible for most. <br />
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One has to realize that the Plejaren themselves still have allot to learn and experience, neither are they perfect nor the message they bring are perfect either. They have done a few blunders here on Earth and probably will do more in the future, hopefully it will not cause the total destruction of Earth for they should heed Nokodemjion’s example.<br />
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What would each of you logically think about the fact that a BEING in the pure spiritual state of Arahat Athersata level, where all are “linked” and that if one BEING acknowledged an idea or energy “thought”, instantly all other BEINGS share it amongst “themselves” because of this spiritual link.<br />
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Now think about this, since Nokodemjion is the co-creator of the Lyrian and other white races that plundered the DERN universe while his spirit was in the Arahat Athersata realm and for that reason was responsible, thus connected or linked to this travesty which, if left uncorrected, would it not also “contaminate” the other BEINGS in this respective spiritual realm as well?<br />
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Thus, it would be wise for those that abuse others that although one may get away with it for some time at least in the material realm (maybe not?), your evolutionary attributes may not be valid accordingly to the Equational Potentials and one of the reasons (besides wars) why after almost 7 billion years, the Lyrian and other races Nokodemjion co-created are still not even at the half/spiritual realms of the High Council which is initiated between 40-60 million years of evolution.<br />
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These are the kind of questions one should ask, for your as well as your past, current and future depends on it to bring accountability for all concerned.<br />
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:26, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Semjase:<br />
221. That may not be true, for you will actually not be the biological father but will only take over the father's role after the birth of the descendant.<br />
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Could anyone tell me the name of the child and the name of biological father? <br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 12:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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I think the troll should be banned until he reads at least the first four chapters of the Goblet of Truth. And you know who you are - you're not Maxim, you're currently at Minimum.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 17:46, 5 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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What is it? Do you want to feel my anger again? Did it turn you on? B----.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 18:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well you sure are full of yourself, aren't you?<br />
I'm afraid I didn't feel your anger last time so you might have to try harder this time. So come on, get it all out, let us all know the real you.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 00:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Keep on dreaming, psycho.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 01:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Sheila,<br />
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Internal inbalance of one should be that person's primary concern not yours although it may be in your nuture nature's quest to assist others in need, your primary attributes are also endeavored in assisting your incarnated spirit.<br />
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One that does not nuture their spirit does not have the right to expect others to do so (free will) at the expense of their own spirit as far as evolution is concerned. Only in cases of self-destruction of others adhering to creational laws, does intervention become necessary.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 22:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Zameen said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian. Aloha, I must agree.<br />
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Hi Hawaiian, so does that mean those not adhering to creational laws, you don't have to help?<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:12, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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The Plejarens have intervened on several occasions on Earth by scientists who tried to experiment with a weapon that would have vaporized this planet in minutes. One another event where ET’s were leaving their solar systems (16 planets) due to some cosmic disturbances and planned to invade and kill off inhabitants of other worlds including Earth in order to live there, the Plejarens intervened and found new uninhabited worlds for them to live on.<br />
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These are a few examples of necessary intervention in order to counter-balance Uncreational endeavors which pose dangers not just for the negative initiators, but also those that adhere to Creational laws.<br />
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Now to answer your question about “not helping” those that do not adhere to Creational Laws, you have a point. I should have been more concise and applied that statement to CURRENT affairs at hand. <br />
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Due to our present technological limitations in addressing these issues and the fact that enormous amounts of time, energy and resources and toil that are required in order just to make a dent of improvement, if any to one that DOES NOT adhere to Creational laws (in cases like schizophrenic, psychotic, delusional and multiple personality disorders often brought about through unsupervised contact with entities of the ether state) or in most cases, not living a balanced life.<br />
<br />
The Plejarens specifically does not recommend attempts to make contact with these “entities” as most are not evolved enough to prove satisfactory and often engage in deception as well.<br />
<br />
Now, back on track, unless one is professionally trained in these matters and does not mind investing all that time and energy in “fixing” such internal imbalances, which by the way also require enormous amounts of commitment on the patient’s part, one has to evaluate this entire scenario. Does it really makes a whole lot of sense even attempting to resolve such issues, what are the success rate and if any, how long does it lasts without constant supervision or drug medication?<br />
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Then after all this has been done, considering the sum of investments incurred, would have it been wiser to have invested this energy toward the evolution of one’s own spirit which obviously took a serious toil? It may sound self fish, in a sense; however is it not also selfish on the part of those engaging in such uncreational activities to expect another human being to make the erfuhlen? (Not sacrifice) on their behalf and at the expense of one’s own spiritual evolution?<br />
<br />
These are difficult questions indeed, but maybe in a more conducive environment where technology can be of a deciding factor in cases like these, then we can apply such measures in “korrektieren”? <br />
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So the deciding factor one has to make is it really worth your time, energy and resources to commit to another? That is your free will to endeavor and if one decides on that route, then that is your decision to do so. Maybe the spirit will incarnate in a better personality, who knows?<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Well Hawaiian, I cannot argue with that.<br />
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 21:13, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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who is the child they're talking about? <br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 12:53, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal said: "...a female life form, in every respect, can only mate with and become fertilized by one male life form alone, whereas the male life form is able to mate with and fertilize many female life forms, which is truly of necessity for the preservation of the species and for the maintenance or building up of the psyche in a natural law-related manner."<br />
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This statement could be used as a justification for sperm bank, not as a justification for polygamy, because polygamy is not intended to facilitate the preservation of species, but to expand sexual gratification of a man, which is not bad, if it is without coercion and deceit.<br />
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Marriage is not only about fertilization, but about many things which I am not the right person to mention. Fertilization could not be used as the only starting point to contemplate marriage, whether it is monogamy or polygamy.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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...................I guess we know what gender dominates there planets in terms of numbers.:) I would like to know the planet with the lowest amount of inhabitants that needs to be filled immediately. j/k This is a tough one because how about if there is only one man on the planet inhabited by all kinds of women.:) Is it this lucky individuals duty to sve that planet. Then again there is Utah and nations to the East that have many wives. I think that is a complex situation if all those ladies all had a bad day. This is from the male full powered testosterone perspective so ladies don't feel offense. I think one is tough to handle but if you live a thousand year life span that could be a different mentality. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Mark and Markvd (AKA "Two Marks"),<br />
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I heard that the ratio of male and female on this planet in 1990s is 1:3. I wonder if keep on going overpopulation which brings some incarnation cycle disturbances would make the ratio higher, to become 1:4 or 1:5. Even if someday the ratio reaches 1:200, polygamy could not be easily justified without considering some factors which form a marriage.<br />
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I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?<br />
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Utah is not interesting. I prefer celibacy than mormonistic polygamy, if you asked me.<br />
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Anyone who has been living for thousands of years (such as Gilgamesh) must have a different mentality than most of the present Earth people, especially mentality on passion, mentality on beauty, and mentality on eroticity. <br />
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It's important to know that Plejaren have strict scientific tests (taking as long as 2 hours) - before they're allowed to marry a wife or a husband...<br />
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"I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?"<br />
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If on the planet they follow the laws and recommendations of Creation neither one should happen.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:07, 16 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Quetzal said: "...a female life form, in every respect, can only mate with and become fertilized by one male life form alone, whereas the male life form is able to mate with and fertilize many female life forms, which is truly of necessity for the preservation of the species and for the maintenance or building up of the psyche in a natural law-related manner."<br />
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This statement could be used as a justification for sperm bank, not as a justification for polygamy, because polygamy is not intended to facilitate the preservation of species, but to expand sexual gratification of a man, which is not bad, if it is without coercion and deceit.<br />
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Marriage is not only about fertilization, but about many things which I am not the right person to mention. Fertilization could not be used as the only starting point to contemplate marriage, whether it is monogamy or polygamy.<br />
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...................I guess we know what gender dominates there planets in terms of numbers.:) I would like to know the planet with the lowest amount of inhabitants that needs to be filled immediately. j/k This is a tough one because how about if there is only one man on the planet inhabited by all kinds of women.:) Is it this lucky individuals duty to sve that planet. Then again there is Utah and nations to the East that have many wives. I think that is a complex situation if all those ladies all had a bad day. This is from the male full powered testosterone perspective so ladies don't feel offense. I think one is tough to handle but if you live a thousand year life span that could be a different mentality. <br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Mark and Markvd (AKA "Two Marks"),<br />
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I heard that the ratio of male and female on this planet in 1990s is 1:3. I wonder if keep on going overpopulation which brings some incarnation cycle disturbances would make the ratio higher, to become 1:4 or 1:5. Even if someday the ratio reaches 1:200, polygamy could not be easily justified without considering some factors which form a marriage.<br />
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I wonder, if a man lives in a planet inhabited by beautiful women only, what would he become? Their king or their slave?<br />
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Utah is not interesting. I prefer celibacy than mormonistic polygamy, if you asked me.<br />
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Anyone who has been living for thousands of years (such as Gilgamesh) must have a different mentality than most of the present Earth people, especially mentality on passion, mentality on beauty, and mentality on eroticity. <br />
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Typing speed is calculated in wpm not letters, so what is 1,200 and 1,300 letters per minute ???<br />
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AMAZING!!<br />
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Benjamin Stevens,<br />
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Since the spiritual teachings are the most important information, could you please translate conatact reports #11 and #79 to English.<br />
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There are 3 areas I find interesting in this Contact Report, the first concerns the “potential” of certain Earth humans as described by Ptaah. Religions, material obsession, overpopulation, greed/lust for power, uncreational endeavors and others are all negative degenerative factors that prohibit evolution for both the material and spiritual Being of Earth humans.<br />
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39. The Earth human being is a descendant of a human form from the depths of the Universe that is very highly developed in every way.<br />
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41. In this connection, he is on an equal footing with our own race, which is already approximately 30 million years further developed<br />
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81. The larger the gatherings of human beings are, such as in cities, the lower the average age falls, because exactly at such places, immeasurable thought energies, in terms of wrong lifestyles, are released and unconsciously penetrate into fellow human beings.<br />
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85. If the Earth human being wants to think and evolve correctly and in accordance with the Creation, then he may neither move his way of thinking in degenerated negative paths nor in degenerated positive paths, for both are degenerative that can produce very bad and negative consequences, so they are contrary to the Creation.<br />
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86. Right thinking and evolving express themselves through a well-balanced and neutral way of thinking and through right actions and right feelings, which then generate and send out identical forces, through which life is produced and maintained, and an evolution that is truly appropriate for Creation is followed.<br />
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The 3rd item of interest concerns the Plejarens themselves, they, like most humans are often predisposed on some “mindset” regardless of their much more advanced evolution that actually hinders their growth. Because one has to look much deeper including the Plejarens if we are to finalize the appropriate resolution(s) to both of our Creational evolutions since it is connected by past positive as well as negative encounters that are stored within the spirits of both sides of the equation.<br />
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The best way to address these discrepancies that create disharmony is continued interaction between the “Earth worms” of good character and those that wish to make sincere amends. After all, for those those are thinking about merging into the spiritual realms of evolution, do you really assume that others already at that level would welcome someone that still has negative links to other less evolved spirits as a result of one’s pass negative influences? How would one feel if their “environment” gets polluted by negative influences?<br />
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Or, would it be more appropriate to as what Billy mentions “Korrektieren” “put right” again, thus bringing back balance before proceeding to the next evolutionary level?<br />
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Billy:<br />
We Earth worms are, after all, still a type of ancient swashbuckler – at least some of us. The unknown simply beckons us, and the harder life hits us, the more we can enjoy it. I will teach you this all right, perhaps when we shake a dinosaur’s paw.<br />
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103. May reason keep me from that.<br />
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You see, that’s exactly what you have to turn off, for it inhibits everything in such matters because it generates anxiety. Reason tells you that a dinosaur is an evil beast, but the intellect says that the little creature only acts crazy when it feels excited. Thus, if we shake its paw quite peacefully, then it will start to be happy, but not to turn around.<br />
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For me, Billy's explaination on reason (Vernunft) and intellect (Verstand) is quite weird. Even after I replaced intellect with "understanding" and then with "comprehension" it still seems not right, for me. Billy said that he got it from Sfath. I wonder if that is what Sfath said or that is Billy's interpretation on Sfath's explaination. If that is what Sfath said, that would seem extraordinary weird, for me.<br />
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If you look at the second part of sentence 312 in the german version, you will notice that the german verb for "should take care of" is missing. It could be "erledigen" or something else.<br />
312. He should take care of these concerns for you, and he should take care of your financial interests in all things.<br />
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312. Er soll sich um diese Belange für dich bemühen und er soll deine finanziellen Interessen in allen Dingen. <br />
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This is amazing, I love it!<br />
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In summation of this report Back to the future part 4 is in production, alines are hiding in all mountains, and the blue man group show is aiming for world domination. :) I feel safer now knowing these very facts. <br />
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Hi Solomay,<br />
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Which part of this Contact Report is amazing to you? You were not watching X-Men movie, were you? <br />
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Maybe it would be better on this context (Contact Report 39, below Semiase's line 103 & 105) if Vernunft is translated as "reasoning" (a thinking process about possible consequences of an action), not "reason" (a final result of this thinking process).<br />
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I didn't understand the 3 worlds. Where they all in the same dimension? Or maybe 1 of past, one of future and 1 of some other time = 3 dimensions.<br />
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Also if within 500 years we'll have beam ships that's not very far away, good.<br />
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Once again a mistake/error or whatever it is...<br />
First it says kamogal 2 displaces his father and takes command, but then it's kamogal 1 who has command and ordered Aruseak...<br />
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Worse still event timeline says that kamogal 2 kills his son.<br />
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Look: "However, also Kamagol the First could not assert his position of power because, after he had created for himself a centre and a headquarters deep under the surface of the pyramids of Giza, he was overthrown and disempowered by his own son, KAMAGOL the Second."<br />
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There it says Kamagol 2 has the power...<br />
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"Kamagol the First now selected one of his cousins as the authority over a group of thousands of individuals which had a quite special mission to fulfill - or would have had."<br />
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So it should mean both Kamagol 1 and 2 have power or at least actively in control of a group...<br />
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At top of contact report it also says that Ashtar/Aruseak was active on earth in a negative and criminal way, on behalf of Kamagol II. So NOT under Kamagol 1 as quatzel was saying:<br />
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"Kamagol the First now selected one of his cousins as the authority over a group of thousands of individuals which had a quite special mission to fulfill - or would have had." That should be Kamagol the Second since Kamagol the first was displaced...<br />
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Once again a mistake/error or whatever it is...<br />
First it says kamogal 2 displaces his father and takes command, but then it's kamogal 1 who has command and ordered Aruseak...<br />
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Worse still event timeline says that kamogal 2 kills his son.<br />
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Look: "However, also Kamagol the First could not assert his position of power because, after he had created for himself a centre and a headquarters deep under the surface of the pyramids of Giza, he was overthrown and disempowered by his own son, KAMAGOL the Second."<br />
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There it says Kamagol 2 has the power...<br />
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"Kamagol the First now selected one of his cousins as the authority over a group of thousands of individuals which had a quite special mission to fulfill - or would have had."<br />
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So it should mean both Kamagol 1 and 2 have power or at least actively in control of a group...<br />
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<div>[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:29, 16 February 2008 (GMT) If anyone knows where I can get the German for this Contact Report please email me. Thanks.<br />
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There are several inconsistencies in the Contact reporting data - of which this is one.<br />
In 2006 Ptaah tells Billy that the 'electromagnetic earth energies are the causal agent of the Hills 'abduction.<br />
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While I am not 'muddying over Ptaah's comments, perhaps - it behooves ALL of us reading ANY material to cross reference it and to think about the consequences to exposing more than necessary to others.<br />
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There are several inconsistencies in the Contact reporting data - of which this is one.<br />
In 2006 Ptaah tells Billy that the 'electromagnetic earth energies are the causal agent of the Hills 'abduction.<br />
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While I am not 'muddying over Ptaah's comments, perhaps - it behooves ALL of us reading ANY material to cross reference it and to think about the consequences to exposing more than necessary to others.<br />
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Thomas57 Semjase made an error here, not a thorough research -- later corrected by Ptaah.<br />
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[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 18:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
As per evidence at http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/3451.html?1062165882 I have corrected the article to show that Semjasa is the father of Adam and not Semjase.<br />
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I have so much questions when did the m lyran male on earth female and mutated ET female took p happend? Which race they did they created? The mutated race from outer space whiihc ones where they? How many other ET settle on earth.<br />
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TheUFOGuy, try read [[Event Timeline]] from the bottom upwards.<br />
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Thanks. But you still haven't anwser whichi mutated feamle ET did they took. And you didn't answer if the same for blues, yellow, and greens males took earths women as wives. <br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:34, 4 April 2011 (BST)http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Summary_of_Contents_for_Meier%27s_FROM_THE_DEPTHS_OF_SPACE..._CONTACTS_WITH_THE_PLEIADIANS/PLEJARENS,_Internet,_June_2009<br />
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Click on this link and scroll down to pages 188-207, then I would suggest you read the entire Contact Report 251 for the historical migrations of various ET's as well as the manipulated DNA humans that came to Earth. The blue race of humans are still located in Inda underground, the yellow races came to Earth around 25,000 years ago and the decendants are the Chinese and Japanese.<br />
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I think what you are referring to are the 144,128 sons/daughters who captured and bred with Earth humans (Adam = male) (Eva = female), don't know much about the greens???<br />
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I thought that was Semjase in a previous incarnation. The council would never approve of those actions.:)j/k<br />
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TheUFOGuy your question was a little difficult to understand. At around 387,000 BC the ETs, Lyran I think, came to Earth and interbred with the indigeneous, less-evolved humans. The Sirians genetically engineered shortlived humans somewhere between 5 and 7 billion years ago whose decendents escaped their slavery and ended up on this planet much later. I think.<br />
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Here it says that JEHAV is the son of Arus but event timeline JEHAV is the son of Jehavon (3683 BCE) what the fuck!<br />
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Dangers of the free will universe is that any level of development can settle on any planet whether they have good or bad intentions. Thank goodness no one of great power resides on our planet possessing technological and high ranking developed capabilities using it carelessly . There are many clever criminal cats around here that would flaunt there might. I wonder how difficult it is to acquire an Jschwisch ranking because it seems everyone good or bad has one. :) I call for stricter and more clever tests to find truly knowledgable people with good intent. There must be an Jschwisch cheat book for those rogue turncoats.<br />
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are the peaceful sumerians the same sirians as the creatir overlords?<br />
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Paragraph 136 is confusing,namely the statement " and around a hundred-thousand years after the destruction of Mu" . If Mu was destroyed about 9498 BC ?<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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There's multiple errors here with dates.<br />
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According to event timeline refugees from Beta-Centauri came 131,000 years ago. That is correct like this contact report.<br />
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But event timeline says group of scientists (Bafath) that fled occurred 13,000 years ago.<br />
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This contact report says 115,000 years ago a difference of 102,000 years!!<br />
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Then again event timeline says they returned (Bafath, under leader Arus) 11,000 years ago. <br />
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This contact report says they returned 113,000 years ago.<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:42, 4 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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Also in http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_9 it says they (the descendeds of those that fled) returned 7,000 years after not 700.<br />
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Quetzal is very lucky that he doesn't have to live on the Earth and I would leave this overpopulated planet to live and die on a similar planet that has humans who are true humans not degenerates.That way I can evolve in a manner that fits with The Goblet of Truth and the laws and recommendations of creation and nature.Why doesn't the Sirrians who are responsible for genetically altering us,give their heads a shake and repair the damage they did here on Earth?They should be responsible and they should read the Goblet of the truth too and correct their mistakes themselves.Why make BEAM do everything for everybody?I don't want to wait 1000 years for the rest of Earth to wake up and smell the coffee of truth.I am disturbed that so few people care about finding the truth and are steadfast in denying that there is a truth.<br />
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I say we go to Syria and let them have it. :) j/k I know it's different. I thought it was the Giza Intelligence from the territory from which you speak Bigfoot that caused the problems. However if we set up a better form of government around the world then we could counter those 4,000 year old geezers. If we thought logically and had a system where every voice is heard then we wouldn't have gotten checkmated by these troublesome foes so many times. Our governments right now are still set up for this type of failure. Only a few make the big decisions is easy to play mind tricks on the weak. <br />
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Bigfoot, I would agree with your statements completely. Quetzal and the Plejarens live in a paradise world without the harsh experiences and degenerative issues forced upon Earth humans, some of which are directed related to those who did such evil acts and were accepted in the Plejaren world a long time ago.<br />
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There appears to be a double standard as far as how evolution is currently applied, those that have done evil to fellow humans, because of they live on different planets are not subjected to the re-incarnation processes. Too bad Nokodemjon's intervention of preventing further re-incarnation in cases like these are not currently enforced.<br />
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To expect the massive degenerative interferences done to Earth humans, like "programmed suicides (ageing gene manipulation), cancers, religions and other evils done by ET's, yet we all fall under the same criteria as these ET's are not fair in my books!<br />
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Yet, their answer is always "it is against OUR directive to intervene" and further mention that because of "Free Will", Earth humans will have to find the answers themselves. I find such reasoning as repugnant and dishonorable, yet they fail to acknowledge that the current re-incarnated spirit in Billy, Nokodemjon himself came out of a pure spiritual BEING, condensed himself into coarse material Being, intervened the very ancestors of both the Plejaren and Creator Overlords to stop their degeneration and massive evilness in this DERN universe.<br />
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Even by Ptaah words, "he himself and does not know of anyone who would do the same as what Nokodemjon did".<br />
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Had it not been for Nokodemjon, where will the Plejaren or Creator Overlords or these other ET's be or what become of them? Ever wonder why is that Billy, a coarse material human Being, a representative of Earth humans able to communicate directly with the Arahat and Petale level?<br />
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Yet, the Plejarens who claim to be vastly superior in both spiritual and intelligence to Earth humans can only communicate to the next higher level of the half spirit/coarse High Council, who they themselves can only communicate up to the Arahat level?<br />
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Thus, yes there are more than meets the eye, because Nokodemjon's intervention in the past may also have laid down the foundation for the future as well. It's just that these so called advanced Beings are not aware of it or simply blinded by their current quest of evolution, they fail to look at what's under their feet?<br />
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--Hawaiian 20:01, 18 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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I think it is good that we had this talk because it is the Idea that is powerful and perhaps it will cause ripples in the Dern universe that could result in a reaction.Nobody on Earth has these ideas just a few people.The smallest pebbles that fall to the riverbed are felt.Cause and effect starts with an idea.Prophesies can change like the wind.To have the treasure here on Earth and anybody can read it is an incredible event in time.<br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 02:05, 19 May 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Cris said ... ==<br />
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Heh, Sukofu, I saw (and downloaded) you post a lot of Master Meier material on youtube. Thanks for your dedication. Although I know the truth in all its simplicity and straightforwardness like the back of my hand, it's painful to be in a miniscule minority. I ask myself how I was mathematically matched up with charging overpopulating earth humans. Plejarens should be willing through Meier, to take the few of us that clearly demonstrate and understanding of how reality works, and a willingness to adhere to Creation's guidelines, to another planet. It's torture living on earth, with the oxygenless air and nutrientless food. It's not fair.<br />
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== Cris said ... ==<br />
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You want paradise visit Hawaii. I bet there are a ton of clean places left that aren't filled will oil ridden shores. There are many nice spots on Earth. Don't visit the central point between North and South Korea or some terrorist entrenched countries and you will be fine. :)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Sorry Cris that post below yours is mine and by the way watch out for Somali pirates if your a sailor. Safe journeys. <br />
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In contact 7 Semjase tells a different story... it says earth didn't produce any human-like beings but the first ones came from other planets (as outcasts) which then later came other aliens who mated with them and created more races (skin colours, sizes, etc).<br />
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== Reginald said ... ==<br />
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They can travel through time and still not save these scripts? Or copy them at least. Or beam the script and the man aboard!<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I remember reading one time that some things must be approved by the High Council, and I don't know if they approved attaining the scripts, but this report is not up to date so who knows what lies in the depths of planet earth and all it's treasures of knowledge. Don't go searching for that script now Reginald and become a rockstar or anything. :)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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To Reginald,<br />
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Yes, the Plejarens could have just done what you suggested, but that never happened, so Billy had to get the revised version from the Petale level. An extra effort after experiencing a breakdown caused by unreasonable demands by the Plejaren themselves.<br />
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On more than a few occasions, the Plejarens have displayed thoughtless "logic" adhering to their non-interference directives, that has caused more problems for Earth humans to "resolve" had they not logically think the "solution" out before remaining on the sidelines, case in point;<br />
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1 - As in this case of Rashid, the Plejaren also irresponsibly demanded too much from Billy which also killed him as a result.<br />
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2 - Did not intervene when the Sirian commandos began to "erase" all human-made structures on Mars after they arrested the Men in Black on Mars. In Contact Note 251, they mentioned back then, that Earth humans will soon discover the ancient ruins on Mars that will bring into question the religious dogmas. But now it has been erased, makes it more difficult to prove otherwise, thus makes Billy's mission more difficult as well.<br />
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3 - Did not intervene during the Tunguska event when a spacecraft with 4387 ET's through navigation error, brought them to Russian and could not leave because of technical difficulties. They created an atomic bomb and destroyed themselves, thus they are now condemned to the re-incarnation process here on Earth, when the Plejarens could have provided another option, but did not, because they are blinded by their own quest for evolution.<br />
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Here was a genuine opportunity to resolve a host of problems for both these ET's and Earth humans, who common problems traced back to religions and those that promoted it. Their home worlds were destroyed when their ancestors took the insane religious beliefs from Earth back there 1000 years ago.<br />
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Those that created these religious insanity were none other than the Giza Intelligences based under the pyramids. Instead of allowing such an opportunity go to waste, these ET's could have served a most useful endeavor and counter-act the evil Giza Intelligences, thus preventing WW1 and WW2 and also permitting their leaders back home to reconsider? <br />
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Sometimes I wonder how "logical" these Plejarens are, when they can't even see what's under their feet? Yes the foundation they stand on, created by the most honorable BEING/Being himself Nokodemjon who co-created the very ancestors of the Plejaren, Creator Overlords and others. It is this foundation of logical, humane intervention that supercedes any directives which enables one to evolve pass these self-imposed restrictions that inhibits both parties of this equation.<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian everyone can't do the Hula dance correctly at first but even higher and more knowledgeable beings can't make perfect decisions every time. Wars can be averted if money hungry people and those that wish to dominate don't reach the highest position so easily. I mean once you become a top official it's like taking candy from a baby, there should be an enormous amount of obstacles before anything is approved. Governments are set up so in a couple of years ANYONE can make it to the top and impose there will upon there people. If they had tougher requirements in leadership such as a very high education attainment, years of good humanitarian service and a certain age before becoming a rule creator things would be much better. It would also help if before approvign anything they discuss the possible good and bad outcomes thus they don't get surprised when chaos breaks out because they were too quick on the trigger. I also remember reading that the Plejarens cannot interfere with events within our jurisdiction unless of a possible destructive nature to the cosmos. They have kindly sent 7 prophets our way or the universe has and we turned them away with the profit power greedy seeking leaders. We are the only ones to blame for our problems. <br />
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--Mark 20:39, 1 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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I agree with Mark because the Plejaren are only Human and not some perfect god.Everybody can learn from their mistakes so they can correct these mistakes to the good.I feel very good that the Plejuran help us at all.What would it be like if there was only bad Aliens?<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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In 1995 the Plejarens have officially withdrawn from Earthly missions, expect for the occasional visits and telepathic contacts with BEAM. So as I see it, we are again left to fend for ourselves, one question that I still ponder, are some of the evil 144,228 former ring leaders the "Sons and Daughters of Heavens", those responsible for the terrible religious dogmas on Earth were later accepted by the Plejaren in the past.<br />
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Thus, is it logical to assume that some of these Plejarens have a self interest in themselves, more so than the concern of these manipulated/degenerated Earth humans, since they have "fulfilled" their part through BEAM by the Creational materials he has written and now has left, contented with their "mission accomplished" endeavor?<br />
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Based on the past and current practices/attitudes of the Plejaren, I'm not sure if I would whole hearty accept them 100 percent genuine and compassionate, for self preservation, avoidance to open dialogue towards addressing their counterparts and steadfastly adhering to their "directives" often appears counter-productive and often creates more problems at hand.<br />
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Granted, I will credit them for the assistance given to both BEAM and Earthly matters, but they still have much to learn even if it means the destruction of Earth along with people like ourselves under the worst imposed conditions, trying in earnest to adhere to Creational methods, in my books is nothing less than abandonment! <br />
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However, as Billy once mentioned to Quetzal, "one day the Plejaren will be humbled and respect those that they feed with a big spoon". <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Hawaiian I usually agree but it's like entering into every country and imposing our rules and time and everytime. A problem which is still going on today.:) If we can't figure out to help ourselves, how can we become any better. If they solve all our problems and fix every mistake we make, how can we learn? I am sure that they had there fair share of trouble makers as well like Ashtar Sheran who was a highly knowledgeable one that somehow chose a different path. They are by no means perfect, remember the caks ship being discontinued. I would call most of what they say as genuine because it is a universal matter of knowledge they are passing along not an egotistical self centered ideal. Would you want to speak to beings that have a LONG way to go in terms of mental development and don't use all there senses correctly. It's like talking to a wall. One day things will get better if everyone can jointly make decisions rather than pointing fingers all the time. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Even more imperfections is there inability to have contact with dogs and cats at close proximity. <br />
Flashlights which can blind them.<br />
Bicycles and there monstrous road grating and balancing act dangers.<br />
500 plus cake ship atmosphere deterioration feature. OOPS said that one already. <br />
Updated Contact reports due to approval from councils high above them. <br />
Pictures destroyed due to overexcited human reactions and possible black mail by earth humans of degenerate thinking capabilities. <br />
Feel free to add a list of more my fellow contact report readers. <br />
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--Mark 23:33, 6 June 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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This exercise was to point out the imperfections of these so called "advanced ET's", not point fingers, although it has a certain logical value when seriously analyzed under the Cause and Effect principle for those without the necessary experience in endeavoring however compassionate resolutions they may be utilizing. <br />
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On more than a few occasions, had the Plejaren or others analyzed the particular situations and elicit inputs from the very ones affected, then the outcome would have a more positive impact. There are allot of events going on within this most complex environment, both material and fine matters that one day we and others will discover as logical and humane. That is why such a complex interconnected issues that spans time/space of various encounters require a composite consensus approach to include the inputs from these so called degenerates, since some are directly connected to former ET re-incarnated spirits.<br />
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Maybe it will be another ET race or BEING not the Plejaren, with of course, Earth human inputs that will finally bring about the reversal of degenerative measures that will bridge the enormous gap that now separates our common link(s)?<br />
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We are more interconnected than what meets the eye, but that full potential(s) have not been addressed and when one understands their valuable place holder in this equation, along with others on the "other side" of this equation, then one will "find" the appropriate measures to finally balance the "Equational Potentials" between the negative and positive factors since Nokodemjon brought order in the DERN universe.<br />
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The "key" is to acknowledge and act positively on your particular attributes in this most complex set of evolutionary circumstances regardless of ones current level of evolution. When all entities react positively, then the BEING will be unified between the material and fine energies that currently separate them.<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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The Plejaren are not perfect, so they cannot know every single space dwelling race out there. They are developing like we are, thus we can't rely on them for everything, we should be so kind to say thanks for the assistance. They can in no way know every ET's intention out there. If we implemented better measures to counter rash decision making then things can get better by our own hand rather than us having to hope the Plejaren elicit thoughts into every leader to do the right thing. <br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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Because the Plejaren are close friends with BEAM it is more than reasonable to think that the Plejaren show wisdom and knowledge which is simply excused by us Earth Human degenerates.(Wisdom x knowledge = Love).It is unreasonable to expect any human at any level of evolution to sacrifice themselves. <br />
The best anybody can do is to be responsible for themselves first and to help others secondly.We should only compete with good deeds.These ideas evolve humans to be spiritual and thus independent from the urge to be dependent on others.The body is really a vessel or dwelling for the spirit and the conscience block. Food is the fuel and material that maintains the flesh and blood while the electromagnetic energies power the body and the conscience and the fluidal Energies and much more.We are today capable of reversing the gene that degenerates our lives it only requires masses of people to awake and see the truth in order for cause and effect to take place for the good.<br />
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== Nebojsa said ... ==<br />
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Greek Orthodox-Catholic Church? Such a church does not exist. The two are separate and opposed (since the 10th century AD).The Talmud has nothing in common with either of the above mentioned churches, it is Jewish. And Rashid is an Arabic/Islamic name. Such errors raise serious doubts about the authenticity of the text and compromise Mr. Meier.<br />
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== Zameen said ... ==<br />
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-nebojas I implore you to read much more and with specific regard the contact notes. Therein you will find answers that seemed like they were standing up and waving a giant flag as if to say "Right here!! right here!! These are the answers!"<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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The revised version of the Talmud transmitted to Billy came from the Petale realm, the highest spiritual level before becoming the Absolutum. It is NOT any religious dogma, nor belongs to any religion, certainly not Jewish who god they worship is Jehova who WAS a JHFH (king of falsehood, malice) an evil material man who is not even at the half-physical/spiritual level of the High Council and not even close to the 1st level of the Arahat Athersata in which the Petale is much higher being at the 7th pure spiritual level.<br />
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So logical speaking, why would the Petale give instructions to Billy for a Jewish people whose god is opposite of what creational teaching is about? Don't make sense at all..<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Just my opinion, if the events stated are true and that the Plejaren leader Ptaah for not just Earth but two other planets was responsible for these miscues (Tunguska, Mars) then maybe he should gracefully retire and let Quetzal take his place since he is already at the JHWH level and also a strut degree as well.<br />
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Besides was it not Quetzal's inititive in conducting that android experiement to validate that the Plejaren's demmand on Billy at the SSSC was too extreme and the reason why he suffered a nervious breakdown that almost killed him?<br />
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Besides Quetzal has direct links to Earthly matters, being the incarnated spirit of Gabriel the Plejaren leader who mated with Mary and produced a son Jmmanuel the 5th prophet whose spiritual connections is directly linked to Billy himself, which in turn is directly linked to almost every Earth human?<br />
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I think we need a new prospective to address this most complicated slew of events ocurring on Earth, letting other ET's dictate how events pan out is certainly not advisable and Quetzal seems the most logical individual to do innovative things rather than be burdened with protocols and directives. Ptaah has done some good work, but being good is not enough.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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I wonder if the 3 planets Ptaah is in charge of are similar or vastly different. I guess that they all follow the creational guidelines to development of people and there consciosness. At best I wouldn't have let Mars/Phaeton Malona fall but in terms of balance since religion came from our region and caused the demise of an entire system of planets, it was our fate to lose one in the cosmic balance. We should be fortunate to still be around with our inaccurate thinking. I think they have done a commendable job but more teaching needs to reach the masses. Tunguska I am not so sure because if they had broken the rules the space faring peoples then they might have brought about there own fate. It could have been handled differently but you learn and make better moves in the future. <br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Aloha Hawaiian, I think what you said is being a little disrespectful towards Ptaah, don't you think? Maybe Billy knows of all Ptaah's great deeds and we don't? Since Ptaah isn't one to brag, maybe in some future lifetime we will know of all the great things he's done. But just the fact that we haven't blown our earth up yet speaks volumes since there are a lot of crazy humans with their finger on the button. So just because we aren't spoon fed his great feats, doesn't mean there aren't any. And I sure hope he keeps it up :)<br />
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Nebojsa, this is for you:<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church<br />
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The two churches you are talking about are "Orthodox Catholic" and "Roman Catholic". But the Orthodox Catholic is commonly just called Orthodox Church.<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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There is a contact report where Semjase says that once Earth humans have developed the means to reach Mars they will discover ancient ruins that will verify to the religious sector and all humanity that they are not the only ones in the universe and will invalidate many of the religious dogmas which keeps humanity from the truth.<br />
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Now that the Sirians erased all evidence it only makes spiritual evolution much more difficult (changes in prophecy as well), Ptaah as a leader of this sector in space should have said something to prevent such an event from occurring, but no he or others was only concerned about some Sirian law that allows such action to take place because "no living human was presently on Mars during the erasure". What about the billions living in religious delusion on Earth who would have certainly benefited from such hard evidence to prove that these degenerated practices (created by ET’s) are false?<br />
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Who cares about Sirian law, this SOL sector is under Plejaren control not them and Ptaah is the primary invidual for its enforcement, instead of standing up for Earthly humanity he let himself be swayed by some outside ET protocols just like in the Tunguska incident which could have resulted in preventing world wars I and II that would have a dramatic outcome for Earthly matters.<br />
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It appears that prediction and prophecies are much more important than correcting the degenerated parameters of humans on Earth to also include protocols and directives of others who visit this sector but do not live here. The cards are surely stacked against us and again Earthly humans are thrown to the wayside from those with the power to assist but chose otherwise, therefore in these cases the Plejaren are part of the problem and not the solution. In this regard had Ptaah or the Plejarens made a better judgment, I would respect them, but since they did not, they do not deserve my respect in these cases. I do recognize other accomplishments as well.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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What's up with all these requests?<br />
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I have a list as well if everyone wants something done.<br />
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1. More teachers like 1 for every 5-7 students.<br />
2. Super giant correctness telepathic/notic impulser for all world leaders. <br />
3. World leaders must meet a certain intelligence level lacking corruption and further progressive movement for mankind or lifespan lessened by half. :)<br />
4. If we go over 10 billion population wise, I think we need a plan B for mankind. <br />
5. People will begin to wonder why other live longer and they will learn that it is because of correct thinking vs incorrect thinking. I think everyone will improve in commmon sense immediately instead of feeding humanity BS. <br />
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There should be certain parameters only few can reach if they abide by the laws, if they do not they shall not enjoy the same benefits. You have to work you way up. Can't expect people to use every cunning scheme to prevail. There must be a way where man is judged and rewarded lacking material or scientific upgrade. Spiritual upgrade for the correct thinkers. Everyone wants the new Ipad but what if you can have one without any electronics and lifetime warranty through spirit teaching. ;)<br />
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As long as we recycle our material ways over and over we will remain a stagnant race of humanity. If our population decreases to a sustainable level we will benefit with enormous technology and spiritual capability beyond our current imagination. <br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Aloha Hawaiian, I liken the Sirians to Americans who instead of letting Aghanis deal with the soldier who killed 16 civilians, chose to take him home and prosecute him. Yes it is a Sirian law to destroy all things used in a crime, things are really not that much different here. Once someone is convicted of a crime, the evidence is often destroyed. But when you think of the Sirians destroying the stations on Mars it makes me think they did this just so it wouldn’t happen again. The US secret services were involved so it wouldn’t take them long to get back to Mars and take up where they left off. I think the Sirians did the right thing, and so what if we can’t find the stations? We will find history there at some point, just like we do on earth, we start digging for evidence of previous life.<br />
The Tunguska event is really not as bad as what you think when you consider reincarnation. They would have given their homeworld an epidemic if they had been able to fly home. Instead they are incarnated on earth so they can realize what their shenanigans have done to humans and what the consequences of their interference has brought to this world. People often say that you can only understand if you have walked a mile in someone’s footsteps, so I guess the Tunguska event ETs will have that chance.<br />
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a) You can give the scrolls they found to a respectable historian and he'll reveal to the entire world the truth (instead of hiding the scrolls).<br />
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b) Semjase says if she allows Billy's friends to come with him for their contact-meeting they might as well reveal themselves to all humanity.<br />
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But is nonsense idiocy - obviously if you allow his close friends does not mean you have to reveal yourself to all humanity hahah if they did allow we could have had better witnesses.<br />
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thank lord jmmanuel i have knew something not right of religion they are still false teaching on term creation and jmmanuel . dear earth people listen billy meier and the pleajren they are here for truth . dont listen lies of goverement and other contactess . they tell nothing . billy meier is only true and real contactess not others. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I agree but I think Michael Horn is out of this world, he is definitely from another planet. :)<br />
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What makes you say that about Michael Horn, is it a compliment or otherwise? He claims to be the American representative of BEAM's mission.<br />
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I'm currently analyzing this article and tying in some interesting connections to other FIGU reports.<br />
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Will post it shortly...Salome to all Beings/BEINGS of your respective realms of Creation.<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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lol he just met "jesus christ" and he hammered him with questions... as if an interview<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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THis is true i conferm this about judas... ive been teaching this for over 30 years... just read JOHN: the last supper,read it twice and slowly...<br />
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@ 101 where it says, therefore...Juda Ihariot... jmmanuel says... it is so... shouldnt it read, judas father(pharisee) Remember the bible has been rewriten so to allow the romans to feel good about them selves for the killing of Jmmanuel...that why they pray to MARY...it also says above that Jmmanuel lives to 83 not 33...Hummm?Ive read in a dicinary that betray meens to turn are hand over... and the word and translation has been misrepresented all this time do to the romens of the 3rd. and 4th. century...<br />
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Why did judas hang him self? its not because of what his father haS DONE TO HIM BUT, MAYBE THATs A SMALL PART OF IT, BUT ITS BECAUSE hE- jUDA LOVE jMMANUeL and vice versa...and wanted to be with Jmmanuel forever more...its that simple... and he hung there for weeks,and do to he was filled with gasses when he was finaly cut down ... juda burst open with guts exsploding out....but his soul already with the J man... you see it was Judas end of days... thats what end of days is ...its the last day you are any one is here on earth... NOT the end of the world!!! End of days is when the J mam comes to you and you to him in heaven on your last day here on earth as a living human being... end of your days...Understand now?<br />
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what i wrote sept. 6 2011 has to do with the juda iscariot thats in the bible,and that juda ihariot is the one that hanged him self in jmmanuel real time,year 33 are so...now end of days is the day you die here on earth,it has nothing to do with the end of time are the end of the earth...<br />
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Since Earth humanity requires so much development, they should be impregnable to death until there time is up at let's say 90 years of age. If they decide to kill themselves or plan murders or deaths, they just reappear once again until they have learned what is necessary to learn in that lifetime. Too many spirits not enough quality learning experiences. I call it the built in never say die battery that will not expire until the expiration date is met. :) j/k If you have enemies no wars shall save you, if you have dilemmas you will have to solve it, if there is a plague and you get it at age 5 get ready to feel it for 85 years more unless there is a cure. Be good and responsible for goodness sake. No escape from life. <br />
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IT's strange why they landed 4 day march from their destination... <br />
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<div>[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 07:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)Excellent chronological presentation! Earth is indeed the center piece of the DERN universe (and DAL) in regards to the various positive/negative forces that date back to the split up of Nokodemion peoples via the creator overlords. The Bafath are truly evil, did they reincarnate into any Earth humans currently living? Also, is Andromedan High Council of the Hyperborea people (22 BC) the same as those that currently advise the Plejarens? Very interesting if so, now because of the neural-physical-particle "connections" (FIGU Special bulletin 38) that has "manifested" itself here on Earth, all parties whether negative or positive are in various ways, "connected" to current humans now living or more so "existing" on Earth.<br />
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These humans represent a magnitude of various fashions throughout this universe, a sort of "composite" circumstance "reality", the "key" to harmony and balance between all parties involved if the right parameters are introduced to bring this about. All parties have an interest(s) in the outcome of Earth humans, whether benevolent or evil, because their spiritual development depends on this "missing" key.<br />
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== Semjasa created the Adam lineage ==<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Many people have resided on Earth many times according to that timeline. I have always wondered if they would come back and visit. Of all the planets why did they have to try and conquer ours, those damn old Giza's. I guess going after the less developed beings was there plan. We sure do fall for those illusions rather easily. If we used our common sense and didn't get controlled by the fireworks we would probably be a bit better off right now. I hope if we are tested in the future we have matured enough so we don't fall for every trick in the book. The universe is so vast according to the distances and multiple time configurations, I'm sure that many that have left our planet are still out there somewhere. I just hope they grow up and have better intentions next time they plan to come back home. <br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Mark, I assume Earth, Malona and Mars were selected by these advanced ET's because of its far off location away from the ongoing Lyrian, Orion wars and that they knew others won't consider colonizing a SOL system with a dying central sun. However the insane god and religion concept was already established millions of years ago when the benevolent turned malevolent counter-parts of the Creator Overlords fled with the DNA manipulated humans to these planets and were later expelled. Thus, the concept of using religion to conquer, enslave and exploit others was well known when the evil Giza ancestors established themselves after conspiring the destruction of Atlantis and Mu, who were the biggest hinderance for their evil conquest.<br />
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However, because there are various types of reincarnations spanning this whole episode of events to include many ET's who perished, the links to them on Earth as well as other parts of the universe are still interconnected. Because of the Cause and Effect criteria, they are still obligated to resolve any issues that may fall under their responisbility that are still here on Earth. <br />
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An excellent analogy can be realized when one has the power to directly intervene in order prevent a crime such as murder, but instead chose not to and leaves for another planet, leaving the family to feud for themselves. After a few hundred years that same person (ET), comes back to find the family broken up and in despair, then gives them a set of directives to better their situation. Would it have been better if that ET had done the right thing in the first place rather than wait because it was more convienent to do so? Regardless, that ET or his/her material as well as spiritual Being are still connected from day one of that episode and continues, whether those connections remains positive or negative depends which side of the "equation" contribute or not contribute to balance the Equational Potentials that will determine which equational side evolves or stagnates.<br />
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The majority of people that have resided on Earth have one thing in common, they all wanted full control of everything. I don't know why many left but if everyone was that way I would want to change course especially if they are as cruel as they have been portrayed. Could ET's have prevented the World Wars with there tech they could. This is our world now and we can't rely on a past resident to pay the rent. I'm sure they do little things from time to time. Those ET's you speak of have faced the same challenges as we and prevailed, an example the Plejarens and there 50,000+ years of peace. It is now up to us to create and shape our outcome. <br />
Let's say that you had a father that caused tremendous pain and heartache as a leader, would you feel responsible and shoulder all the blame or choose to disagree and move on and choose your own path. <br />
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190,000 BC Pelegon arrives from Plejares, with 70,000 of his people, on Earth.[6] <br />
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An Jschwjsch who, 50,000 years ago, led the exodus of 70,000 human beings from a war-torn Plejares star system to the Sol star system.<br />
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Which is the correct date 190,000BC or 50,000 years ago?<br />
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Why is Prophet Billy's birth not mentionned?<br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 01:09, 11 January 2011 (UTC) There appears to be actually two migrations from Earth to the Plejares system, but the only one indicated here is on 1 BC by Pejos.<br />
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Pelegon (Whose name is honored in name of Plejaren), arrived on Earth with 70,000 followers in 190,000 BC. However there is no departure date, which I assume must be before 48,000 BC, which is the period of final peace on the Plejares star system. In other contact notes, there is a brief discreption of Pelegon fleeing Earth to Plejares because of war.<br />
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@Event_Timeline: I'd Like to bring your attention to date: 3,343 BCE - there is a hyperlink that leads to "Ptaah"-Plejaren, which must be removed.<br />
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No one should ever forget their past and historical aspects that are the foundations on which they currently stand on, further more even though one’s current personality is unique and separate from its past personalities, they are all linked to its spirit form and accessed through their Subconscious via the memory bank which stores the past personality’s experience and knowledge. In addition, each and every one of these past personalities have in some form or another during its material life cycle, had some corresponding links to other personalities when both were living material human beings with their respective spirit form now incarnated in a different personality, but still linked or connected even though the respective personality no longer exists in material form, its experiences and knowledge are still stored in their respective memory banks.<br />
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To say one needs to move on and not dwell on the past, even though mistakes or gross violations to others occurred in the past, is a form of ignorance and irresponsibility, as history has on numerous cases, tend to repeat its mistakes without learning. One case in particular should be noted as Juda Ihariot during his time in Egypt, persecuted the prophet Jmmanuel more than 2000 years ago is the same spirit form incarnated recently in a female named Krauser who also strived to work against Billy the current and last prophet. This personality has never learned from its past injustices to others. She certainly did not care about finding some resolution to her spirit form’s past (Ihariot). I’m quite confident that this is not an isolated event and that more incarnated personalities with negative agendas from the past still do exists in this time period and strive to control and manipulate others in their mad quest of power lust and greed.<br />
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In addition, to say “move on from the past” is quite contra dictionary in nature because the current Peace Meditation process is connected to the time the Plejaren colony was on Earth around 189,000 years ago with Pelegon as their leader who also spoke the exact same language as the Peace Meditation words, thus when these words are spoken, it invokes not just the current meaning by both the Plejarens and their federation members who participate, but also invokes certain harmonic energies here with Earthly participants as well, in concert with more than 70,000 of Pelegon’s followers who once lived here and are now spirit forms on the Plejaren planets incarnated in new personalities, but the same spirit form who once lived here. Your spirit form may also have links to these Plejarens if during the past, one of your personalities did make contact while Pelegon and his followers were on Earth. In conclusion, to say to forget one’s past is to abandon one’s connections which have the necessary attributes for total resolution.<br />
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The Hyperlink should not be there because the text refers to another Ptaah not the Plejaren Ptaah. - How do I go about getting that corrected?<br />
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WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE WHEN GIANT HUMANS WERE CREATED ON EARTH[ 387,000 BC OR 13,500BC?]<br />
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WHERE CAN I FIND THE CONTACT REFERENCE FOR THE DATE FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF MALONA OF 73000 BCE GIVEN IN THE EVENT TIMELINE<br />
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After considerable search , I found the contact reference for the date for the destruction of Malona of 73,000 BC. It is Contact Report #151, line 75.<br />
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There are multiple errors here on in the contact report 070: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_070<br />
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According to event timeline refugees from Beta-Centauri came 131,000 years ago. That is correct like contact report 070.<br />
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But event timeline says group of scientists (Bafath) that fled occurred 13,000 years ago.<br />
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The contact report says that happened 115,000 years ago a difference of 102,000 years!!<br />
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Then again event timeline says they returned (Bafath, under leader Arus) 11,000 years ago.<br />
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The contact report says they returned 113,000 years ago. <br />
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Dangers of the free will universe is that any level of development can settle on any planet whether they have good or bad intentions. Thank goodness no one of great power resides on our planet possessing technological and high ranking developed capabilities using it carelessly . There are many clever criminal cats around here that would flaunt there might. I wonder how difficult it is to acquire an Jschwisch ranking because it seems everyone good or bad has one. :) I call for stricter and more clever tests to find truly knowledgable people with good intent. There must be an Jschwisch cheat book for those rogue turncoats.<br />
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are the peaceful sumerians the same sirians as the creatir overlords?<br />
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Paragraph 136 is confusing,namely the statement " and around a hundred-thousand years after the destruction of Mu" . If Mu was destroyed about 9498 BC ?<br />
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There's multiple errors here with dates.<br />
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According to event timeline refugees from Beta-Centauri came 131,000 years ago. That is correct like this contact report.<br />
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But event timeline says group of scientists (Bafath) that fled occurred 13,000 years ago.<br />
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This contact report says 115,000 years ago a difference of 102,000 years!!<br />
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Then again event timeline says they returned (Bafath, under leader Arus) 11,000 years ago. <br />
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This contact report says they returned 113,000 years ago.<br />
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:42, 4 August 2013 (CEST)<br />
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I was studying the pictures that Jamesm posted of Greater Atlantis,and found that the sediment ripples follow exactly where the crack runs,and that the crack is always in the center.(Sort of like a spine and rib cage.)This rippling effect could possibly be fractured crust of the Earth.<br />
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Did Eduard see this when he was in a beam ship?Was this to be discovered on Google Earth.Is the answer to more questions still in contact notes not yet translated? What is life if there were no mysteries to be answered by all humans. The life of Plejaren humans is something that I could live for! Mystery is there through all evolutions of spirit? All the way to Creation.<br />
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Hi big foot:) I was wondering if I could get a link to those photos of greater atlantis. I would certainly love to see them. I check this site and 'they fly" everyday for more info. Thank you very much. Zameen<br />
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Hi big foot:) I was wondering if I could get a link to those photos of greater atlantis. I would certainly love to see them. I check this site and 'they fly" everyday for more info. Thank you very much. Zameen<br />
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Hi Zameen he was referring to the Google Earth captures I added to the [[Atlantis]] page.<br />
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Hi Jamesm, I read the note that Eduard has for help wanted for edit work in Meier Encyclopedia. The Figu Forum is a talking encyclopedia. The answers Eduard gives belong in the Meier encyclopedia. For example "Aggressor Gene" is nowhere to be read in encyclopedia. Here is the answer in part from the Forum posted on April 29 2005-05:56 am. Aggressiveness exists in all life forms. The aggressor gene manipulation is like an "overdrive" of aggression (a tendency of over-reaction.) <br />
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impulse, instinct <br />
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Is it possible to overpopulate the Milky Way Galaxy with civilizations?(Human and non human included)Or is that impossible?<br />
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thanks for the opportunity to read your ideas on the Milky Way.<br />
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Hello,<br />
Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know the Milky Way is approximately 100-120 thousands in diameter and 10 thousand thick, that what our scientists say.<br />
The other thing is that in contact report # 251 Billy talks about creation of our race by Syrians, and it was about 22 million years ago and you present here information …”The first genuinely recognizably human forms of life were created on the oldest planets of our galaxy about 9,000,000 to 12,000,000 years ago….”.<br />
Please explain it to me why we have such discrepancies. Thanks B.J. Witelus <br />
My e-mail is : questdental@yahoo.com<br />
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Hi BJ, that's the awesome thing about science, it is always changing (mostly to get up to speed with Billy's material :)<br />
The discrepancy could be from assuming our race is the same as the original older version. I would think that our race was created 22 million years ago while other older races have been in existence for 9 - 12 billion years.<br />
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BJ according to event timeline Creator Overlords created them 7,000,000,000 years ago:<br />
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and in contact 251: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251<br />
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I don't see mentioning of 22 million...<br />
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What I don't get is this:<br />
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"The age of this galaxy amounts to close to exactly 810,000,000,000 years since the beginning of the first formations of gas."<br />
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"1,911,000,000,000 years ago - The first formations of gas come about for the Milky Way galaxy."<br />
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline<br />
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Is it possible to overpopulate the Milky Way Galaxy with civilizations?(Human and non human included)Or is that impossible?<br />
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thanks for the opportunity to read your ideas on the Milky Way.<br />
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Hello,<br />
Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know the Milky Way is approximately 100-120 thousands in diameter and 10 thousand thick, that what our scientists say.<br />
The other thing is that in contact report # 251 Billy talks about creation of our race by Syrians, and it was about 22 million years ago and you present here information …”The first genuinely recognizably human forms of life were created on the oldest planets of our galaxy about 9,000,000 to 12,000,000 years ago….”.<br />
Please explain it to me why we have such discrepancies. Thanks B.J. Witelus <br />
My e-mail is : questdental@yahoo.com<br />
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Hi BJ, that's the awesome thing about science, it is always changing (mostly to get up to speed with Billy's material :)<br />
The discrepancy could be from assuming our race is the same as the original older version. I would think that our race was created 22 million years ago while other older races have been in existence for 9 - 12 billion years.<br />
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BJ according to event timeline Creator Overlords created them 7,000,000,000 years ago:<br />
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline <br />
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and in contact 251: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251<br />
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I don't see mentioning of 22 million...<br />
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Why didn't the creator overlord soovle their proble with one simple solution and that is to make combat andriods? Hy make genetically-manipulated race to fight for them? Whats so diffrical to make a bunch of andriods that can fight for them?<br />
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UFOGUY did you watch Star Wars and Star Trek. c3P0, r2d2, and DATA were at times unreliable and malfuction could be dangerous. :) There skills in making robots were probably not as advanced as the current Transformers models. :)<br />
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I never liked to watch star trek but I watch star wars. Or heck if the sirians can't make good battle andriods why not make a clone wariors, why make an entire race? heck make biobots like the greys in zeta reticulli.<br />
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Salome,<br />
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In the FIGU forum Billy answers this question:<br />
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Thank you for the response, I do understand better now what is positive degeneration and now I can think of many many more examples here on earth. <br />
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If the Lyrian group of people, who lost their capacity to fight, were very advanced in technology I supose, why did they feel the need to create new humans instead of building robots that they could control with a button or a switch. Didn’t they know that creating new humans would involve having a spirit in them, and therefore they themselves could reincarnate in this new “fighters” humans. I can think of more problems coming from this, then my question would be: why the need of creating human life instead of artificial “fighters” machines”? Thank you very much for your time and many greetings to both of you, Salome"<br />
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"Robots, or androids, are more dangerous than genetically manipulated human beings. In a human being there always remains some "good" factors and at leasts remains of a conscience, which is not the case when androids are stepping over a limit and are turning towards eliminating human beings. The Sirians (not Lyrians) were aware of this. <br />
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Btw: While it is a necessary part of progress that robots and androids are and will be created here on Earth, there looms a great danger behind all of this: When robots or androids are capable to think independently, they may start to duplicate themselves and start to eliminate their creators: the human beings."<br />
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Why didn't the sirians then program the robots to have not be able to run against their masters? Or heck make biobots like the greys. Would it killed them. <br />
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The following two paragraphs were taken from Contact Report 251 and are Predictions of events to occur in Earth’s future. Any time one manipulates the “normal” creational process of humans or beings, they create a host of problems because the spirit that “dwells” in each are NOT supposed to become servitude to other spirits, UNLESS it is beneficial for both. <br />
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We all know of the degenerated methods of the Creator Overlords toward the human warriors they created in shorten life cycles, aggression, genetic disorders that are still present in Earth humans. We also know about the insane concept of Gods and religions, now this other manipulation by future Earth humans creating human-animal and especially robot-humans that interfaces the spirit with technological applications is very dangerous, not just for the planet Earth, but the entire DERN universe as well!<br />
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Bear in mind that beings have access to the 6th and 7th senses including spiritual telepathy that traverses the entire DERN universe instantly and to be interfaced with technology and the possibility of coupling in mass (as done during the monthly Peace Meditation), but with sinister applications becomes a danger for not just Earthly matters but the entire universe as well.<br />
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We all know of the Subconscious feedback incident with Mr. G. who is just one being, can you imagine what would be the potential consequences of thousands of human-robots collectively coupling their thought energies and through the human 7th sense, wreak untold destruction towards others? Very dangerous and this outcome should be seriously contemplated by those in power to prevent it from happening OR for the sake of salvaging the spirits in these manipulated human/animal/machines, SHOULD another avenue of logical reasoning be utilized OR should it not even be created in the first place?<br />
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It is a very serious dilemma that will surely tax both Beings and BEINGS in finding a resolution for this issue. <br />
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1.- “Those human-animal, genetically-manipulated creatures and the robot-humans will be creating incredible problems. These difficulties will lead to the deplorable decline of every space travel program and nearly bring space travel to a complete standstill. The problem will come about because of the robot-humans' and semi-humans' refusal to continue working for normal human beings, and because of their unwillingness to continue a life of subservience and exploitation as living maneuvering devices for spaceships, vehicles, equipment, war machines and so other gadgetry.”<br />
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2.- “The robot people, simultaneously, will become a danger to normal human beings through their own propagation and the siring of many descendants. Due to genetic alterations, these descendants will be born without arms and legs, with their nerve endings already exposed. This will permit easy access to the nerve endings of their extremities, which can then be attached without surgery to various devices and machinery, etc. The robot people will become a true menace to normal humans, for they will possess unforeseen consciousness-related powers. Over time, they will further develop these powers by way of an above-normal application of their consciousness whereby the brain, through unique, painstakingly constructed energy generators, will be endowed with special energies from the outside. All of this will allow the forces of the consciousness to perform at record levels”.<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Like all things in nature, the bad comes with some good news, Contact Report 251 indicates that the problem with the human/animal/robots will be eliminated, but not without serious damage. But as in predictions or prophecies, interventions can always change its outcome. (a word of thought for those of concern)<br />
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How did the sirian created the new humans? I know they altered their DNA. What are there methods? Did they created these new humans by contructing basic DNA togather until it forms a new human? Did they procreated with seuxal reproduction with each other? Did they clone? How did they create these new humans?<br />
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I think there's a mistake here:<br />
"This new human race, which exists on Earth today, was created to protect the Sirians as they had lost the ability to fight through self-manipulation when they were previously living in the Lyra star system. "<br />
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In event timeline: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline<br />
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it says that Creator Overloads went in the Sirius star system not Lyra, "Another lineage, who we now refer to as the Creator Overlords, also settled throughout the galaxy and eventually arrived in the Sirius star system. "<br />
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That is interesting news, I am a frequent jogger 3-4 times a week and love sports for other reasons than those mentioned. Instead of getting pummeled watching sports from paid pros is good to pass the time.:) I agree though that jogging could be harmful depending on body type. I think some are a little too obsessed with there looks if they have transplants. <br />
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== Newinitiation said ... ==<br />
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Yes Ptaah and Billy is spot on with their assessment.<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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I don't like fake tits either.<br />
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I don't really get it. First he says jogging isn't good: "Jogging and “Nordic Walking” are likewise harmful to health"<br />
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But then he says: "Described as normal is everything that doesn’t belong to extremism, fanaticism, or exaggeration".<br />
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Soccer can be played normally like for 20 minuets instead of 190 full match. Yet even for 20 minutes it's still jogging unless you're a keeper.<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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I do not know much about jogging. I just do not like fake tits.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] ([[User talk:Alive|talk]]), Helltown, Hell Island., 19:18, 25 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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"I just do not like fake tits." lol neither I, I'm almost afraid of them.<br />
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Something else: Billy also have 3 tatoos on his hand, they're small but I wasn't expecting it!<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Do you mean on his arm? May I know what your native language is?<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] ([[User talk:Alive|talk]]), Helltown, Hell Island, People's Republic of Hell, Hell Planet, Hell Constellation, somewhere in Hell Space-Time Configuration , 13:01, 26 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Why do you want to know my native language? What has it got to do? Maltese. The trailer of "The Silent Revolution of Truth" is enough to see Meier with tatoos... or see this image: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfIa8OJg_iy4j5AWrycD7rmzxV-1Ca6vYgGbx5qpVZhTB4Jtv- (in Google images).<br />
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I don't find anything wrong with couple small tatoos btw.<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Okay, thank you. I just want to know. I thought you are an african. I am sorry, if my question annoyed you.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] ([[User talk:Alive|talk]]), Metro Hell, Hell Island, Hell Planet, Hell Star System, near the longest spiral arm of Hell galaxy, 19:33, 28 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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Nothing annoyed me dont' worry :))<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:17, 6 October 2012 (BST)<br />
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== ory said ... ==<br />
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How many absolute absolutums are in existence .<br />
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and absolute perfection does not exist anywere , do you agree .<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Just my opinion, from what I can gather, the Absolute Absolution is the highest "state of BEING" reached after Creation has evolved or "obtained" the 10 to the 49th power of evolution, in which more Creation(s) are created and "adds" to the endless/timeless of a never ending "expansion" of the Absolute Absolution which "exists" in the non-space realm.<br />
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Absolute Perfection can never be "obtained", it is always evolving, and if it did reach that "stage", then evolution will cease to evolve...it is a never ending process that continues forever.<br />
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"It" or better described as<br />
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== Suv said ... ==<br />
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Even Creation is evolving. So absolute pefection does not exists.<br />
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Even the Absolute Absolutum evolves into Ur-Absolutum, Central Absolutum, Creations Absolutum, Super Absolutum, Sohar Absolutum, BEING Absolutum and possibly many more higher Absolutum forms.<br />
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== Stuart said ... ==<br />
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Hi, I do not have a religious axe to grind, but I find the comment about being no Creator God.<br />
If these happening are the result of 'Spiritual-Physical' processes, how can a 'Creator' not be involved. Also, this 'birthing' process was set up to behave in a particular manner. Where did it's programming come from?<br />
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== Noahochoa said ... ==<br />
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can you explain the 7 universal belts to me?<br />
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== Noahochoa said ... ==<br />
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can you explain the 7 universal belts to me?<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Stuart, something did in a sense give birth to the Creation, but the Creation itself created the visible universe from its own idea. In a similar sense, someone did give birth to you, but you are still creating your life. <br />
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Noahochoa, FIGU Bulletin #5 has a good explanation or just do a search on "belts" to see what the Plejaren say themselves.<br />
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== Usedname said ... ==<br />
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Glory be to the Creation. :) Extremely difficult and seemingly impossible is the distribution of the truth about the almighty Creation,its laws and recommendations. Seems like my existence on Earth is amongst degenerate primates who swing on the vines of trees in a jungle of impenetrable ignorance, arrogance,and megalomania. :(<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Actually it would be futile in attempting to conceptualize where or when Creation starts or ends because “its” idea is a result of countless accumulations of knowledge and experiences from various foundations of evolution to include the material as well as the non-material realms of existence.<br />
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The very nature of Creation is the evolutionary process of being into BEING and BEING into being and so forth, the merging from the physical to the half physical/spiritual to the Arahat Athersata to the Petale and so forth. Thus Creation can never be “contained” in any shape, form or thoughts for doing so (if possible?) would violate its free will of evolutionary nature. <br />
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It is like saying “I will think for you, therefore I am you”! You are not longer unique but just another clone that has just stopped evolving.<br />
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is there an inconsistency here?<br />
it states at the first line that big bang comes from ur-universe.<br />
but it says creation universe is the lowest evolution state, and next comes ur-universe?<br />
if we're an creation universe, how can creation universe exist before ur-universe, which gives it birth?<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Our universe has a twin I wonder if it had octuplets and that occured because of the big bang X2 and the Earth came to be through billions of years of collsions in which our planet came to be. It's amazing how quickly we can destroy a planet knowing how long it takes to create one. Weird. <br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Excellent summary and I would like to add a little "salt" to the bitter truth that NO god or gods or for that matter any religious dogma has a MONOPOLY on Creation! For Creation, because it is Relatively perfect and constantly evolving forever "it" needs more knowledge and experiences to continue merging into more creative endeavors.<br />
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Thus, every single human and other intelligences knowledge/experiences will also in due course merge into the Absolute Absolutum to again create more wonderful things. To claim that these god or gods have absolute control of Creation is a travesty of justice against humanity for this concept only validates the barbaric nature of some parasitic entity existing at the expense others.<br />
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"Relatively perfect and constantly evolving forever "it" needs more knowledge and experiences to continue merging into more creative endeavors. "<br />
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It needs more knowledge and experiences at my behalf though - at my expense. How convenient. Congratulations, enslaving parasites for your amazing insights.<br />
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It needs more knowledge you say? ROFL. Theres empty space. Then thers stuff you can build and shape any way you want on top of the empty space. What more knowledge is there to know? Needs more knowlege you say? What knowledge can it really get when it created / molded the constants/parameters to behave in whatever way it wants. You ass kissers don't understand anything.<br />
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Easy for our Creator to play its f@ggot game since it had the chance of being created first before anyone else, it could have easily been the other way around, except I wouldn't even think to create eating, shitting, breathing, animal bloodsports, being at the mercy of random psychopath's weapons, forcing all to suck cock / eat vagina against their own will, etc, etc, etc.<br />
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You parasite criminals think you understand? You understand nothing. You are nothing but puppets. Retard bondage clowns, understand simple logic, Creation can do anything it wants with its stuff/constants/parameters. So why do retarded/annoying sh!t on purpose?<br />
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And all of you, you went along with this. If you humans on all planets had a gram of righteousness in you, you would stop reproducing to force Creation to change it's laws to be more fun. Laws like for example, those that want to be granted freedom from reincarnation must be granted it. It's only fair.<br />
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Of course I wouldn't expect unrighteous enslaving parasite c0ck starved bondage clowns like yourselves to understand this.<br />
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Like bizzare weasel cockroaches you roam the planet pillaging everything in your path. You then choose an inverse genital target to have an inverse relationship and to force another into cocksucking expeditions. Through succesive lifetimes you swap genital roles and have at it again. Like bizzare weasel cockroaches it required inverse genitals to lure you into decreasing your psychopathness. NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT ONE LIFETIME YOU PARASITED XY, THE NEXT IT WAS YOUR CHILD AND YOU SHOWERED IT WITH EFFORT/WORK/TIME, THE NEXT YOU CUT ITS THROAT, THE NEXT YOU DEEPTHROATED IT'S COCK FOR 5 HOURS STRAIGHT, I WANT ALL OF YOU TO ENJOY TAKING EACH OTHER SERIOUSLY KNOWING THAT GENITALS WERE THE PIVITAL DIFFERENCE, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. THAT'S THE MASTERY OF OUR CREATOR.<br />
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That was awesome. Completely unhindered by the need to know anything about this case yet, totally focused on hating it also. Amazing, Eloquent, Ignorant, Masterful....Me Gusta.<br />
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Yeah, wow... "Newb slayer" - That was such a nonsensical, illogical, crude, primitive, defamatory and puffy-chested post that I don't think it even warrants any more than this remark in response.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Someone wants attention, I don't know who but I think they might be onto something. :)<br />
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Newb slayer,<br />
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I would highly recommend your credentials to be a judge for the Giza Intelligences on that prison planet millions of light years away! It's just too bad they all died in 1996. Maybe we can find you some employment for other degenerates in the DERN universe who are in need of such "Enlightenment".<br />
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== Newb slayer said ... ==<br />
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"Completely unhindered by the need to know anything about this case "<br />
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I know this case perfectly well. I do not debate that master Meier is the real deal prophet of the new time, nor do I debate the math/physics of the case or anything and everything in general.<br />
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I'm simply stating that Creation's laws are injust.<br />
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THOSE THAT WANT FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED IT. It's only fair. Anythign less is enslaving bondage.<br />
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You see, bondage clowns, "love" is a 2 way street. It's not "love" any more if it's forced. Then it's bondage. If I was Creation, I would allow freedom from reincarnation to those that wanted. The masters/elite get to escape on to better things, and you that enjoy building weapons and rectal residue can have your fun, everyone wins.<br />
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"Ignorant". ROFL. Look at yourself in the mirror to see who willfully IGNORES all angles on the table. You are nothing but puppets/sheep/cattle blindly following what you have been told without scrutinizing deeply in your own interior everything.<br />
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Don't get me wrong, what you've been told is the truth, Meier is the real deal, I know this fully well, the point is: THOSE THAT WANT FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED IT. Is this so wrong?<br />
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Anything less is enslaving bondage, and it's this principle why you are being torn apart and brought back down to reality, not what you want to cram down other people's throats: that's not "love"; "love" must be reciprical. Those that want it, full power to you, those that don't, must be granted freedom from reincarnation; everyone wins; everyone is happy. SOMETIMES, THE PRINCIPLE MATTERS. SOMETIMES THE PRINCIPLE IS EVERYTHING.<br />
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--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 04:02, 27 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Newb, you say those that want freedom from reincarnation must be granted it? Since you don't remember who you were in your last lifetime, how the heck is this going to make any difference? So you think it's better if you don't reincarnate? What would be the purpose in that? To stagnate and never evolve? Each subsequent life should have a chance to make themselves better because currently humans need a lot of work. You've said so yourself. What you're missing is that all people have free will. THEY choose to do all those things you speak about. Personally I blame religion for most of that and people's weak mindedness to do the easy thing (or to go along with the crowd) instead of what is considered hard work.<br />
I think you're stuck on some concept that is meaningless in the whole scheme of things. Love ya!<br />
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Thank ypu Sheila. You beat me to it! Salome!<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Newb does have some valid points on the discrepancies between the “masters/elite” known as parasites to include the gods, their cohorts the sons/daughters of heaven, creator overlords, Giza and other ET’s that still harbor thoughts of world and universe domination at the expense of others.<br />
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We are all victims of these injustices, including Billy Meier, whose incarnated spirit of Nokodemjon is also bearing the same experiences we all are going through in spite of the fact that he co-created both the Plejarens, their ancestors including the creator overlords (responsible for the ageing manipulation and the reason why we don’t live past 100 years) Even Billy Meier’s spirit is subjected to the reincarnation process even though Nokodemjon was a pure spiritual form of the Arahat Athersata level, it to is going through this painful period to last millions of years or more even just to reach the half spiritual level again.<br />
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To say this is unfair, I would certainly agree for there are options to resolve this, but those in power to do so still have not “found” the logical humane cosmic laws to reference its appropriate applications nor the will to do so. The capacity to render this solution lies in both inside and outside of Earthly domains, it is the merging of both worlds that the final solutions will be forthcoming.<br />
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It is also true that creational laws as currently known to exist will not work to resolve the gross travesty inflicted on both the spiritual and material planes currently experienced on Earth. These laws need to evolve at the same intensity that produced such degenerated conditions because of the Cause and Effect which was and continue to be negated by its opposite, the Not-Cause and Not-Effect, because the forces that could have prevented such events from occurring did not react in DUE time, it was and continue to be “after the fact” as displayed in the intervention from higher intelligences during the Bardan episode when they destroyed several worlds in their homelands a little over 1000 years ago.<br />
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Does it have to take this sort of crisis in order for creation to “readjust” its equilibrium, or do we wait 800 years as the Plejarens have predicted before they believe its time Earthly matters are to be taken seriously?<br />
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When Billy says “we are all connected” is so very true and I am confident to mention that we are linked through the spirit’s various connections from the material to non-material spectrum that spans time/space and dimensions up to the spiritual level where Nokodemjon came from and even beyond. It is when one finds these connections that he/she has which also links to others as well and when his/her spirit begins to resonate from logical reasoning’s between the material conscious and subconscious, that these links also begin to resonate along its appropriate paths that will produce the harmonic impulses for the most appropriate equilibrium resolutions. This resolution is administered through the “Equational Potential Formulations”, a complex form of balanced forces that includes every single incident, event, space, time, dimensions, actions/reactions, Cause & Effect, Not-Cause & Not-Effect, both the positive and negative factors or parameters and other things, nothing is excluded. Its concept is not listed in Billy’s materials and I only discovered this rather recently, its application cannot be applied using Earthly technology, but requires much higher frequency processing because fine matter energy is also included which plays a very important function<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:19, 27 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Due to fluctuating thought process Newb Slayer I suggest being incarnated as often and fast as possible as some members suggested to find a more stable Peaceful Slayer. The change in fluctuating TONE can ONLY be improved THROUGH multiple LIFETIMES. ;) Hang in there my fellow human people. I thought of that very same scenario as well to tell you the truth due to the unnatural process of incarnation in this territory but a little more organization let's say 75% more and everyone can develop accordingly if everyone wasn't crammed into one planet in the region and there was a clear goal for every human on the planet that doesn't have to do with material or power growth. Time will tell if the process becomes natural. <br />
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Silly newbs, all your robot newb antics were already answered 10fold in the first post. You lack reading comprehension. So you puppet cattle sheep newbs want to be slain mercilessly do you? Let’s begin.<br />
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To the newb clowns known as Sheila and Zameen:<br />
“you don't remember who you were in your last lifetime, how the heck is this going to make any difference?”<br />
Are you mentally retarded? It’s not about that; this was quiet clear from the get go. It’s about not liking living in a weakling shitty, snot filled, need to breathe just to stay alive disgustingly ugly human body, easily harmed and injured. It’s about a rejection of the present version of reality (which can be constructed an infinite number of other ways). Ignorant bondage robot, can you understand, that the present version of reality can be constructed an infinite number of other ways by Creation? Can you grasp this simple concept already mentioned in the first post? Can you understand that if Creation wanted to, it could make you not have to eat, not have to shit, not have to work to produce goods, not have any pain sensors, unlocking flight 900000000X easier, not be dependent on you and your kind’s noxious breeding bondage fetishes, to biological weapons, ray weapons, nuclear weapons, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, you C0CKRAOCH CHARGING BONDAGE NEWBS? Can you understand this simple concept, c0ck starved charging bondage robots? Just look at the sh!t that’s coming out of your mouth. I mean, it doesn’t even look like you’re trying to have a serious debate.<br />
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“What would be the purpose in that? To stagnate and never evolve? Each subsequent life should have a chance to make themselves better because currently humans need a lot of work.”<br />
Wow just wow. See the previous paragraph again. Again you come with random garbage. Do you speak the language of logic you maggot bondage robot? Second of all you maggot b!tch, what’s it to you what motives someone has for that; that’s their own business. No one is stopping you from continuing your weapon building, noxious breeding vermin, mini me fetished, cock sucking expeditions with your fellow bondage robots if it turns you on. Those that want an exit must be given an exit. Can you understand this simple concept? Third of all, you stupid animal, - YOU - need a lot of work. You think just because you are fallible, everyone else is as well? You think everyone is at your special needs level? Don’t project your failings/shortcomings onto others. (AND NO YOU STUPID ANIMAL, YOU DON’T GET TO POINT AT ME AS BEING FALLIBLE BECAUSE I’M NOT SUGAR COATING MY WORDS WHILE YOU GET TO BOND OTHERS TO A 14X OVERPOPULATED TOXIC WASTELAND SURROUNDED BY WEAPONS IN A WEAKLING CRAP AND SNOT FILLED BODY)<br />
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“What you're missing is that all people have free will. THEY choose to do all those things you speak about.”<br />
You robot charging b!tch. We’re not even talking about the same thing. Not everything is about you, you charging animal. Yes you have free will to bondage others to a 14x overpopulated toxic wasteland surrounded by weapons, to psychopath predators. I also have free will to knee kick you in the face right after I throw fireballs at you, which is coming you psychopath bondage animal. What exactly is your point you charging robot? Again, it doesn’t even look like you are trying to have a serious debate.<br />
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Sheila, I think you are stuck on some rectal residue, mini me fetished, weapon building, NOXIOUS BREEDING VERMIN concept that is meaningless in the whole scheme of the-infinite-number-of-other-versions-of-reality- that-could-exist things. This is not the only version of reality possible you rabbid animal. Can you understand this simple concept? You stupid charging animal, all of this was already answered in the first post. How stupid do you feel? By the way what are the chances that you are ugly and physically weak / unfit, and unappealing. Pyrokinesis ya. LULZ.<br />
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To the charging bondage robot newb known as Hawaiian:<br />
“Newb does have some valid points on the discrepancies between the “masters/elite” known as parasites.... thoughts of world and universe domination at the expense of others.“<br />
ROFL. YOU RABBID CHARGING ANIMAL. I don’t want universe domination; I want to be space fish, without your idiot restrictions that you have the audacity to force on everyone, just chilling out peacefully not in bondage to PSYCHOPATH ANIMALS LIKE YOURSELF AND LIVING IN A RESTRICTIVE HUMAN BODY. Can you read simple English? This was already answered in the first post. Can you understand simple logic you rabbid charging animal? Me a “parasite”? ROFL, I mean really now, this is the best you can come up with. I want a peaceful exit from reincarnation, MEANWHILE YOU AND YOUR KIND WANT TO FORCEFULLY BOND OTHERS TO A 14X OVERPOPULATED TOXIC WASTELAND SURROUNDED BY WEAPONS , TO YOUR DIGUSTING AND WEAK HUMAN BODY, TO PREDATORS, TO JAMAL’S HANDGUN, JUST SO YOU CAN INDULGE IN YOUR BIZZARE MINI ME / POCKET FORCED FRIEND / MORE ADVANCED PET FETISHES, and I’m the parasite? ROFL. Silly newb, it doesn’t even look like you are trying to have a serious discussion: THOSE THAT WANT FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED IT.<br />
As for the history lesson. I already know the history. I’m interested in having an abstract debate, not your trivial human b!tch games. In fact you just ridiculed yourself. In all of that horrible history you just described, you (and your kind) ego tripping bondage robots went along with it. GOOD WORK CHARGING BONDAGE GHETTO NEWBS. You psychopath bondage robot(s) have to ask yourself 1 question. Who’s the bigger psychopath? The psychopaths themselves? OR YOU WHO REPRODUCES BESIDE PSYCHOPATHS? ROFL. Weakling animal, the point of life is to achieve Creation’s level of power/mastery/godliness. The present version of reality's constants/parameters was constructed with heavy limitations to teach bondage clowns like yourself a brutal lesson. ROFL. An essential lesson of Creation's game (straight from master Meier’s mouth) is, “the mastery of one’s ego”. When you are surrounded by criminally overpopulating noxious breeding vermin and weapon builders, you don’t reproduce. In doing so, your spirit is effectively teleported in time (you wait , till the primitive animals on the planet have reached a compatible level of evolution for it to be reinserted), or in space (if the primitive noxious breeding weapon building animals eradicate themselves, your spirit moves to another planet). By you having bondage fetishes and going on an EGO tripping bondage rampage you only own yourself. Congratulations psycho newb. That's the mastery of our Creator you charging ego tripping animal. That’s kind version of it. Now for your newb slaying version: if all humans on all planets reject Creation’s primitive laws, it will have no choice but to alter them: to allow freedom from reincarnation should one desire it, and to remove all of the unnecessary restrictions.<br />
The rest of your post was just random gibberish. Charging bondage animal, everything was already answered in the first post: It doesn’t matter if you accurately described the present version of reality, because an infinite number of other versions could exist, yet you ANIMAL BONDAGE ROBOTS INSIST ON PRAISING THE LOWEST OF THE LOW. Everything was already answered in the first post: there’s empty space; then there’s stuff Creation can build and shape an infinite number of ways on top of (in) the empty space; then there’s your choice whether to accept it or not (via reproduction). Charging bondage robot, again this was already answered in the first post. Charging bondage robot, FREEDOM FROM REINCARNATION MUST BE GRANTED TO THOSE THAT DESIRE IT. Not everyone craves the bondage like you do. Who could have known?<br />
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To cockroach newb known as MARKVD:<br />
Your random gibberish was already answered. An enslaving parasite till the very end are you? (those that want freedom from reincarnation must be granted it). Well you animal, what you fail to understand is that through your own bondage ego, you are open to manipulation and erradication. I suggest you get over your fetish with forcing your bondage on to others. Is that the only language you understand? So what you want is to force everyone into ass kissery with no option of a PEACEFUL exit to those that want it? And you find this reasonable? An enslaving parasite until the very end are you?<br />
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PS. Genitals.<br />
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PPS. mini me fetishes, MORE ADVANCED PETS, pocket forced friends. flagrant prostitution. RECTAL RESIDUE. CUM SHOTZ. DIRTY SANCHEZ. GOLD SHOWERS. machine guns, atomic bombs, poisonous oxygen depleted air, nutrient depleted food, politics, paper pushing, projectile semen, deep throating, biological weapons causing gruesome slow deaths, mana depleted earth, noxious breeding reproduction, Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj, genital logic, bondage, RICHARD GERE PRESENTS GIRBLING.<br />
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PPPS. What are the chances that all of you are ugly and physically unappealing. Tremble in fear hypocrite/irresponsible charging ghetto newb bondage clown robot life form psychopaths. The elite (the true elite, not comparable to the 2nd place material elite) are back. We show up every few 10 thousand years to give you a more personal taste of the bondage you crave, enslaving parasites that you are. Are you ready for your next massacre? Enjoy the anticipation.<br />
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http://feww.wordpress.com/2011-disaster-calendar/<br />
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http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/4/49/ZannahDoEcropped.jpg<br />
http://ssj1011.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/broly.jpg<br />
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What are the chances all of you are ugly animals with bodies that look like living corpses?<br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-tTO8PpoQ<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYYt3T3SxV4<br />
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Who the fvck do you think you are that you get to forcefully bond others to you without the option of a peaceful exit: freedom from reincarnation must be granted to those that want it. On your knees. I want you to beg for forgiveness, not suck c0ck like you were hoping, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. The true elite are back. We show up every few 10thousand years to give you a more personal taste of the bondage you crave, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE.<br />
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Meier’s words: “The world will reverberate from a powerful and merciless war cry, and cities will be destroyed, and the blood of human beings will flow in streams.<br />
Hatred and vindictiveness will flood the earth, and human beings will live with the delusional belief of a doubtful peace, which they hope in vain to attain, for a worldwide war will inundate the earth, and nobody will be spared; not the old, not the women and children, not the sick and the injured, and not the just and the peaceful.”<br />
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and why should the women be spared, they are equally evil psychopaths, they are males in vaginal avatars after all, c0ckhungry charging bondage robots.<br />
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Some ask for a peaceful exit from reincarnation and you dare come to the discussion with your regujitated bondage fetishes. Are you ready to have fireballs thrown at you? Since you refuse to understand verbal logic (you must all either convince Creation to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it, or you must all halt reproduction on all planets to demand Creation to change its bondage laws to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it), perhaps you'll understand magic used against you logic, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. Enjoy being born in 20/40/80 years after your death and being enslaved (via reproduction) just like what you like to do, while some get to skim though your bondage in thousands of years. Enjoy the apocalypse bondage animals; it doesn't come often, and it will be giving out enriched extended lessons on the topic of bondage, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE.<br />
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--[[User:Newb slayer|Newb slayer]] 20:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Nice to meet you to, I do not know why you exist right now if you are so happy. You know what you can do to rest in peace. :) I do wish you well on your journey of endless growth and development. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Newb "the psycho" slayer,<br />
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Have you forgotten to take your medicine, maybe double your dose of Prozac? You talk so tough while behind a keyboard so I suggest you start sending me some direct aggressive impulses so we'll see who becomes the slayer of your delusional sick mental degeneration thoughts?<br />
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Why attack Zameen and Sheila who tells the truth about yourself that only an idiot like you won't admit to and learn from the process? You got no class and Jamesm should just erase your filthy postings.<br />
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 21:26, 29 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sheila said ... ==<br />
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Freedom from reincarnation is never going to happen Newb slayer, no matter how many times you say it or wish it. So you better get over it. I agree with Hawaiian, you really need to get back on your meds. I laughed my ass off while reading your rant, you sound very much like a child who can't get his way. Grow up and start talking like an adult so people can understand what you're saying. You don't make much sense. But I'm sure you get that a lot in your everyday life. You have a very sick version of reality. But that is your version alone and I'm glad it's only you that has that opinion. Do you think maybe your mom didn't love you enough? Oh and lay off the porn, k?<br />
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Is that you, Christian? Do you still live in Romania?<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:42, 30 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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I've included Newb's UNEDITED postings and included in bold a response to his delusional ranting. Hope we can learn something besides taking up valuable space on this website.<br />
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Silly newbs, all your robot newb antics were already answered 10fold in the first post. You lack reading comprehension. So you puppet cattle sheep newbs want to be slain mercilessly do you? Let’s begin. <br />
To the newb clowns known as Sheila and Zameen: “you don't remember who you were in your last lifetime, how the heck is this going to make any difference?” Are you mentally retarded? It’s not about that; this was quiet clear from the get go. It’s about not liking living in a weakling shitty, snot filled, need to breathe just to stay alive disgustingly ugly human body, easily harmed and injured. It’s about a rejection of the present version of reality (which can be constructed an infinite number of other ways). Ignorant bondage robot, can you understand, that the present version of reality can be constructed an infinite number of other ways by Creation? Can you grasp this simple concept already mentioned in the first post? Can you understand that if Creation wanted to, it could make you not have to eat, not have to shit, not have to work to produce goods, not have any pain sensors, unlocking flight 900000000X easier, not be dependent on you and your kind’s noxious breeding bondage fetishes, to biological weapons, ray weapons, nuclear weapons, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, you C0CKRAOCH CHARGING BONDAGE NEWBS? Can you understand this simple concept, c0ck starved charging bondage robots? Just look at the sh!t that’s coming out of your mouth. I mean, it doesn’t even look like you’re trying to have a serious debate. <br />
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Sheila and Zameen were referring to YOU not knowing your own past life cycle reincarnations which plays a very important role on the current personality which apparently has become separated in your case. To call others “mentally retarded” because they have not yet evolved to Billy’s level where he can access his past personalities, which means everyone else, including you is beyond human logic and on the verge of delusion.<br />
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However, there are a few who do occasionally have a glimpse of their past personality’s experience and knowledge under certain conditions when their other 6th and 7senses are activated mostly through dreams or strong emotional events.<br />
Creation does not have the option to decide who can by pass the material conscious belts, avoiding the reincarnation process and immediately move into the non-physical realms, that occurrence is dependent on each individual’s ability to do so through experience and knowledge gained through repeated incarnation which “normally” (without interferences) take between 40-60 million years, then another 60-80 billion years of EVOLUTION to become a pure spiritual Being.<br />
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“What would be the purpose in that? To stagnate and never evolve? Each subsequent life should have a chance to make themselves better because currently humans need a lot of work.” Wow just wow. See the previous paragraph again. Again you come with random garbage. Do you speak the language of logic you maggot bondage robot? Second of all you maggot b!tch, what’s it to you what motives someone has for that; that’s their own business. No one is stopping you from continuing your weapon building, noxious breeding vermin, mini me fetished, cock sucking expeditions with your fellow bondage robots if it turns you on. Those that want an exit must be given an exit. Can you understand this simple concept? Third of all, you stupid animal, - YOU - need a lot of work. You think just because you are fallible, everyone else is as well? You think everyone is at your special needs level? Don’t project your failings/shortcomings onto others. (AND NO YOU STUPID ANIMAL, YOU DON’T GET TO POINT AT ME AS BEING FALLIBLE BECAUSE I’M NOT SUGAR COATING MY WORDS WHILE YOU GET TO BOND OTHERS TO A 14X OVERPOPULATED TOXIC WASTELAND SURROUNDED BY WEAPONS IN A WEAKLING CRAP AND SNOT FILLED BODY) <br />
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No one on this board including those you refer to is in any way responsible for building any weapons so why are you implying they are doing so and insulting them, you are switching the bad people with the good ones which is delusional.<br />
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“What you're missing is that all people have free will. THEY choose to do all those things you speak about.” You robot charging b!tch. We’re not even talking about the same thing. Not everything is about you, you charging animal. Yes you have free will to bondage others to a 14x overpopulated toxic wasteland surrounded by weapons, to psychopath predators. I also have free will to knee kick you in the face right after I throw fireballs at you, which is coming you psychopath bondage animal. What exactly is your point you charging robot? Again, it doesn’t even look like you are trying to have a serious debate. <br />
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Define what you mean by “free will to bondage others in overpopulation”, this statement is a contradiction, how can someone being outside of others doing the overpopulation have “free will” over them when the ones doing the over population are the ones with the free will not to do so? Again switching roles from your delusional mind do not make sense, maybe it does for you so it’ll be advisable to take your medications before you post something here?<br />
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Sheila, I think you are stuck on some rectal residue, mini me fetished, weapon building, NOXIOUS BREEDING VERMIN concept that is meaningless in the whole scheme of the-infinite-number-of-other-versions-of-reality- that-could-exist things. This is not the only version of reality possible you rabbid animal. Can you understand this simple concept? You stupid charging animal, all of this was already answered in the first post. How stupid do you feel? By the way what are the chances that you are ugly and physically weak / unfit, and unappealing. Pyrokinesis ya. LULZ. <br />
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Have you even met or seen Sheila, so how can you say these nasty things about her?<br />
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To the charging bondage robot newb known as Hawaiian: “Newb does have some valid points on the discrepancies between the “masters/elite” known as parasites.... thoughts of world and universe domination at the expense of others.“ ROFL. YOU RABBID CHARGING ANIMAL. I don’t want universe domination; I want to be space fish, without your idiot restrictions that you have the audacity to force on everyone, just chilling out peacefully not in bondage to PSYCHOPATH ANIMALS LIKE YOURSELF AND LIVING IN A RESTRICTIVE HUMAN BODY. <br />
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Can you read simple English? This was already answered in the first post. Can you understand simple logic you rabbid charging animal? Me a “parasite”? ROFL, I mean really now, this is the best you can come up with. I want a peaceful exit from reincarnation<br />
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Who said you are a “parasite”, only you came to that conclusion unless you are part of the 144,128 former sons and daughters of heaven whose codex has been released because of the OM written by Billy? So that leaves the creator overlords and those here on Earth who occupy such positions where they do exist at the expense of others, so clearly you do not fall into either one of these categories, where did you get that idea of being a parasite, not from me but in your mind?<br />
I did not “force” any idiotic restrictions on anyone including yourself, I just pointed out the relationship between those that want world and universal domination and if I had that power and used it, you would not be here ranting about it. By the way what is “space fish” which you desire?<br />
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Who the fvck do you think you are that you get to forcefully bond others to you without the option of a peaceful exit: freedom from reincarnation must be granted to those that want it. On your knees. I want you to beg for forgiveness, not suck c0ck like you were hoping, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. The true elite are back. We show up every few 10thousand years to give you a more personal taste of the bondage you crave, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. <br />
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The idea you propose as “option of a peaceful exit from reincarnation” must be granted to those that “want” it goes against Creation laws. Are you kidding me, I’ll never go on my knees and beg to a delusion nut case like you!<br />
So now you admit you are part of that “elite” “We show up every few thousand years to give a personal taste of the bondage you crave”. If so, then why are you directing that approach to the wrong people, why not go directly to the ones who have the true power on Earth and threaten them? They’ll come and arrest you in no time, amongst other things to make your delusional dream come true.<br />
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Meier’s words: “The world will reverberate from a powerful and merciless war cry, and cities will be destroyed, and the blood of human beings will flow in streams. Hatred and vindictiveness will flood the earth, and human beings will live with the delusional belief of a doubtful peace, which they hope in vain to attain, for a worldwide war will inundate the earth, and nobody will be spared; not the old, not the women and children, not the sick and the injured, and not the just and the peaceful.” <br />
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Billy was referring to conditions of WW3 should it occur.<br />
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and why should the women be spared, they are equally evil psychopaths, they are males in vaginal avatars after all, c0ckhungry charging bondage robots. <br />
Some ask for a peaceful exit from reincarnation and you dare come to the discussion with your regujitated bondage fetishes. Are you ready to have fireballs thrown at you? Since you refuse to understand verbal logic (you must all either convince Creation to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it, or you must all halt reproduction on all planets to demand Creation to change its bondage laws to grant freedom from reincarnation to those that want it), perhaps you'll understand magic used against you logic, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. Enjoy being born in 20/40/80 years after your death and being enslaved (via reproduction) just like what you like to do, while some get to skim though your bondage in thousands of years. Enjoy the apocalypse bondage animals; it doesn't come often, and it will be giving out enriched extended lessons on the topic of bondage, ENSLAVING PARASITES THAT YOU ARE. <br />
--Newb slayer 20:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC<br />
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== Newb slayer said ... ==<br />
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Markvd “Nice to meet you to, I do not know why you exist right now if you are so happy.”<br />
I exist because you accept what is given. I exist because of YOUR force. Any other brilliant 2faced weasel questions? Just kidding, Happy Early April Fool’s Day.<br />
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You magnificent, amazing, beautiful, gods. Glory to all of you and to all of Creation’s Creations.<br />
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You’ve just been trolled. We did it out of boredom and for http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/f/fa/4tehlulz.jpg/618px-4tehlulz.jpg <br />
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Keep up the good work you amazing magnificent powerful glorious creatures that know no limits in your power and splendour. Your efforts are appreciated, you boundlessly generous Gods, you truly magnificent beings of splendour and power. And this applies to all of mankind, every last one of you, YOU MAGNIFICIENT BEAUTIFUL BEINGS OF AWESOMENESS. Much <33333. You magnanimous , splendid, godly gods.<br />
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*** The professional troll was due to appear if nothing more than simply from a Creational point of view, in addendum, notwithstanding other N reasons.<br />
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In conclusion, glory be to all of you splendid entities of awesomeness, YOU MAGNIFICENT AND PERFECT IMPERECT BEINGS (EACH AND EVERY LAST 1 OF YOU) AND GLORY BE TO CREATION. IT'S NOT ABOUT a GAME. YOU RISE LIKE THE REST. YOUR SUCCESS IS MY SUCCESS.<br />
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Christian,<br />
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Your words seem very christian.<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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................not necessarily, there are those that rise the right way and those that do it the wrong way. Your way is the WRONG way Newb Slayer, but I still wish you well in your odd strategies. :)<br />
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I, Ur, Aiur, your further queries on Jesus, saviours, angels, demons, crucifixions, exorcism, belief, dependency, triviality, limitations, repetition, needs, appetites, etc... have yielded a result. Refer to diagrams 69a, and 69b<br />
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http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/nicki-minaj-i-dont-need-to-rap-about-my-genitalia-to-be-successful-2012172 <br />
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69b<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM <br />
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Christian,<br />
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Thank you for the Youtube link. I tried to save it, but failed. I have some questions about it:<br />
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1. How long have you been hiding this monumental video?<br />
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2. Is he real? Have you made spectral analysis of the video?<br />
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3. Is there a period in your life when you belive that he is your God?<br />
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4. When I saw it, the video has gotten 51,618,149 views. How many percent of it is from you? <br />
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-newbslayer- you spelled "young,inexperienced loud mouth atheist" wrong. You see newb, you actually had to seek out this wiki, read your requisite pittance of information, process it through your hard line atheist filter, and deliver your hateful drivel(and it is truly drivel). Not one of these folks here have tried to find you and attack you online, nor would they because one of the things discussed here in this forum is those of us in society with such thoughts,feelings,and behavior as yours and trying to understand why it is happening, finding the correct, neutral positive way to remedy the hate, fear,ignorance,and maybe in your case dad was a little too friendly when mom was out of town, I don't know(you should ask reddit). <br />
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Anyhoo, for the most part we're all adults trying to find a better, more peaceful way of evolving and acquiring knowledge, wisdom, and love. if that offends you, then you should stop coming here and picking on everyone and just go back to reddit or ebaumsworld or wherever you smolder. your just being a d!#& and no one really cares. <br />
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But the Absolute Absolutum is just another word for the the First Source unknowable God of Monotheism. Not the 'God' of the Old Testament it's true, But most MODERN believers in 'God' would describe it in a way very similar to the Asolute Absolutum, Theosophists call the First Source, the Absolute and its' first emanations the Logos, this is the part of The Absolute/God that is at the centre of the Universe and that we are Spiritualy Evolving towards. Meiers teachings are not really new. he has adapted them from Rosicrusianism, Buddhism, Neo-Platonism, Hermeticism and Theosophy, he has made a Religion for Old Testament hating Atheists ! <br />
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You do know all these religions Vizard were altered in order to have the illusion of accuracy. Religion if you look closely enough with great detail the deception and the flaws. There is no imitation or alternate variations for truth. There are many ways to reach it but you can't do it by acquiring funds, manipulating a poplulace in order to take advantage of them any way possible then all of a sudden change and update to the newest findings as centuries, decades, years pass. Religions will always have to change dramatically to match the times thus it is not all times thus is flawed. There are many countless other flaws but let's see if the man of Earth is intelligent enough to solve the riddles. :)<br />
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Vizard, it can certainly appear as such on the surface to those who have not done sufficient research to come to a truthful conclusion, who are then being prejudiced by making one. It may also be they they have not developed their ability of logic sufficiently to recognize truth in reality.<br />
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There is a saying "do not throw precious pearls into the presence of those who still live in darkness and do not strive to clean up their household but only strive to justify further their blindness to the truth based on illogical degenerative religious doctrine".<br />
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Their "god" is represented by total destruction throughout the universe, just look in the Lyrian/Vegan system and you'll find the "eye of god", remmants of some star system totally destroyed by some insane power lustful "king of wisdom", the same type who came to Earth as Arus the "barbarian" and Jehova the "cruel one" who proclaimed themselves as gods and created religions to enslave humanity.<br />
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It is the Pope and other religious leaders who are currently prostituting BEAM's work to "justify" their insane illogical continuation of these power lustful agendas we call religions not the other way around.<br />
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I think they should edit newb slayer first post to mention it's an April fool's joke to spare people's time reading all that stuff!<br />
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That is interesting news, I am a frequent jogger 3-4 times a week and love sports for other reasons than those mentioned. Instead of getting pummeled watching sports from paid pros is good to pass the time.:) I agree though that jogging could be harmful depending on body type. I think some are a little too obsessed with there looks if they have transplants. <br />
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Yes Ptaah and Billy is spot on with their assessment.<br />
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I don't like fake tits either.<br />
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I don't really get it. First he says jogging isn't good: "Jogging and “Nordic Walking” are likewise harmful to health"<br />
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But then he says: "Described as normal is everything that doesn’t belong to extremism, fanaticism, or exaggeration".<br />
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Soccer can be played normally like for 20 minuets instead of 190 full match. Yet even for 20 minutes it's still jogging unless you're a keeper.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:17, 25 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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I do not know much about jogging. I just do not like fake tits.<br />
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"I just do not like fake tits." lol neither I, I'm almost afraid of them.<br />
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Something else: Billy also have 3 tatoos on his hand, they're small but I wasn't expecting it!<br />
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Do you mean on his arm? May I know what your native language is?<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] ([[User talk:Alive|talk]]), Helltown, Hell Island, People's Republic of Hell, Hell Planet, Hell Constellation, somewhere in Hell Space-Time Configuration , 13:01, 26 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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Why do you want to know my native language? What has it got to do? Maltese. The trailer of "The Silent Revolution of Truth" is enough to see Meier with tatoos... or see this image: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTfIa8OJg_iy4j5AWrycD7rmzxV-1Ca6vYgGbx5qpVZhTB4Jtv- (in Google images).<br />
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I don't find anything wrong with couple small tatoos btw.<br />
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That is interesting news, I am a frequent jogger 3-4 times a week and love sports for other reasons than those mentioned. Instead of getting pummeled watching sports from paid pros is good to pass the time.:) I agree though that jogging could be harmful depending on body type. I think some are a little too obsessed with there looks if they have transplants. <br />
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== Newinitiation said ... ==<br />
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Yes Ptaah and Billy is spot on with their assessment.<br />
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I don't like fake tits either.<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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I don't really get it. First he says jogging isn't good: "Jogging and “Nordic Walking” are likewise harmful to health"<br />
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But then he says: "Described as normal is everything that doesn’t belong to extremism, fanaticism, or exaggeration".<br />
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Soccer can be played normally like for 20 minuets instead of 190 full match. Yet even for 20 minutes it's still jogging unless you're a keeper.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:17, 25 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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I do not know much about jogging. I just do not like fake tits.<br />
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] ([[User talk:Alive|talk]]), Helltown, Hell Island., 19:18, 25 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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"I just do not like fake tits." lol neither I, I'm almost afraid of them.<br />
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Something else: Billy also have 3 tatoos on his hand, they're small but I wasn't expecting it!<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 07:01, 26 September 2012 (BST)<br />
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That is interesting news, I am a frequent jogger 3-4 times a week and love sports for other reasons than those mentioned. Instead of getting pummeled watching sports from paid pros is good to pass the time.:) I agree though that jogging could be harmful depending on body type. I think some are a little too obsessed with there looks if they have transplants. <br />
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== Newinitiation said ... ==<br />
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Yes Ptaah and Billy is spot on with their assessment.<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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I don't like fake tits either.<br />
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== Redtk21 said ... ==<br />
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I don't really get it. First he says jogging isn't good: "Jogging and “Nordic Walking” are likewise harmful to health"<br />
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But then he says: "Described as normal is everything that doesn’t belong to extremism, fanaticism, or exaggeration".<br />
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Soccer can be played normally like for 20 minuets instead of 190 full match. Yet even for 20 minutes it's still jogging unless you're a keeper.<br />
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--[[User:Redtk21|Redtk21]] ([[User talk:Redtk21|talk]]), 10:17, 25 September 2012 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Redtk21https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Special:Badtitle/NS101:JamesMoore/Extraterrestrial_nutritional_health_advice_that_really_works/c000049&diff=17879Special:Badtitle/NS101:JamesMoore/Extraterrestrial nutritional health advice that really works/c0000492012-01-07T14:49:50Z<p>Redtk21: New comment by Redtk21: <p>These are the vitamins I got, http://www.eyevitaminhealth.com "Doctor said I can try them for 6 months and see how I go" I have no healthy problems at all btw. You take 2 table...</p>
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<div><p>These are the vitamins I got, http://www.eyevitaminhealth.com "Doctor said I can try them for 6 months and see how I go" I have no healthy problems at all btw. You take 2 tablets a day, and you'll be having zinc 10mg and vitamin c 1000mg sufficient as E.T. described. And they contain 10 or more vitamins not just that.</p><br />
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<p>I think it's the perfect suppliment. Problem is and a big one, (may sound silly) I don't know how to swallow pills yet. </p><br />
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