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THis is true i conferm this about judas... ive been teaching this for over 30 years... just read JOHN: the last supper,read it twice and slowly...<br />
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@ 101 where it says, therefore...Juda Ihariot... jmmanuel says... it is so... shouldnt it read, judas father(pharisee) Remember the bible has been rewriten so to allow the romans to feel good about them selves for the killing of Jmmanuel...that why they pray to MARY...it also says above that Jmmanuel lives to 83 not 33...Hummm?Ive read in a dicinary that betray meens to turn are hand over... and the word and translation has been misrepresented all this time do to the romens of the 3rd. and 4th. century...<br />
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Why did judas hang him self? its not because of what his father haS DONE TO HIM BUT, MAYBE THATs A SMALL PART OF IT, BUT ITS BECAUSE hE- jUDA LOVE jMMANUeL and vice versa...and wanted to be with Jmmanuel forever more...its that simple... and he hung there for weeks,and do to he was filled with gasses when he was finaly cut down ... juda burst open with guts exsploding out....but his soul already with the J man... you see it was Judas end of days... thats what end of days is ...its the last day you are any one is here on earth... NOT the end of the world!!! End of days is when the J mam comes to you and you to him in heaven on your last day here on earth as a living human being... end of your days...Understand now?<br />
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what i wrote sept. 6 2011 has to do with the juda iscariot thats in the bible,and that juda ihariot is the one that hanged him self in jmmanuel real time,year 33 are so...now end of days is the day you die here on earth,it has nothing to do with the end of time are the end of the earth...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 20:27, 9 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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As the words of Henoch described I have passed this site information to others, so they may see events described in our time/space continuum as to the advancing possibilities.<br />
I thank both Billy Meier and Henoch for this knowledge.<br />
Love, Peace, Harmony<br />
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--[[User:Communications Expert|Communications Expert]] 05:34, 13 April 2011 (BST)<br />
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As the words of Henoch described I have passed this site information to others, so they may see events described in our time/space continuum as to the advancing possibilities.<br />
I thank both Billy Meier and Henoch for this knowledge.<br />
Love, Peace, Harmony<br />
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--[[User:Communications Expert|Communications Expert]] 05:38, 13 April 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Be careful if someday you want to inform people about Ieremia's Prediction. It is not appropriate for kids and old people with heart problem.<br />
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about possible world war,the muslims are attacking Europe and the states and yet your saying it is wrong that the USA defind its self ...like now the east wants to get big and strong to do us more harm in the name of allah...there fore America has to invade... but not by human solder but by air drone...but why are they invadeing us in the first place, theres a need to find out the problem, (food, greed ,power,jealous) and nip it in the bud...but thats the problems were having now with the east... and this was the problem we were having with Russia and China and it could get back to what it was...Now if a war does happen like what has been said some people will get there wish of population control by the loss of billions of people do to war and sickness...Americans cant aford a 3rd world war... only police work, but we need a partner like China, if there in the right mind set as we need be...Now look what we did with the turn over of Libia power not one american solder lost there life...maybe... yet there was a chaNG OF POWER ... I HOPE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL. AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO handel ROEG POWERS AGAINST WORLD PEACE that and inside spys..<br />
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about possible world war,the muslims are attacking Europe and the states and yet your saying it is wrong that the USA defind its self ...like now the east wants to get big and strong to do us more harm in the name of allah...there fore America has to invade... but not by human solder but by air drone...but why are they invadeing us in the first place, theres a need to find out the problem, (food, greed ,power,jealous) and nip it in the bud...but thats the problems were having now with the east... and this was the problem we were having with Russia and China and it could get back to what it was...Now if a war does happen like what has been said some people will get there wish of population control by the loss of billions of people do to war and sickness...Americans cant aford a 3rd world war... only police work, but we need a partner like China, if there in the right mind set as we need be...Now look what we did with the turn over of Libia power not one american solder lost there life...maybe... yet there was a chaNG OF POWER ... I HOPE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL. AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO handel ROEG POWERS AGAINST WORLD PEACE that and inside spys..<br />
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As the words of Henoch described I have passed this site information to others, so they may see events described in our time/space continuum as to the advancing possibilities.<br />
I thank both Billy Meier and Henoch for this knowledge.<br />
Love, Peace, Harmony<br />
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As the words of Henoch described I have passed this site information to others, so they may see events described in our time/space continuum as to the advancing possibilities.<br />
I thank both Billy Meier and Henoch for this knowledge.<br />
Love, Peace, Harmony<br />
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Be careful if someday you want to inform people about Ieremia's Prediction. It is not appropriate for kids and old people with heart problem.<br />
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about possible world war,the muslims are attacking Europe and the states and yet your saying it is wrong that the USA defind its self ...like now the east wants to get big and strong to do us more harm in the name of allah...there fore America has to invade... but not by human solder but by air drone...but why are they invadeing us in the first place, theres a need to find out the problem, (food, greed ,power,jealous) and nip it in the bud...but thats the problems were having now with the east... and this was the problem we were having with Russia and China and it could get back to what it was...Now if a war does happen like what has been said some people will get there wish of population control by the loss of billions of people do to war and sickness...Americans cant aford a 3rd world war... only police work, but we need a partner like China, if there in the right mind set as we need be...Now look what we did with the turn over of Libia power not one american solder lost there life...maybe... yet there was a chaNG OF POWER ... I HOPE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL. AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO handel ROEG POWERS AGAINST WORLD PEACE that and inside spys..<br />
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The explanation given for electro magnetic delusion of abductions is beneath even the intelligence of the Giza penis heads. Sorry the truth penetrates even the sphinxcter of the bottomless pyramids. Shame on you dear Aqurius with Moon in Scorpio. One simply must update to better technology from NASA if they cant tell one alien lie from another.<br />
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Billy and the Plejarens talk about contacts outside of military and noncivilian kind.<br />
There exists many purported reports from Military sources alleging contacts with aliens (or is this the work of the shadowy group?).<br />
Because Billy and the plejarens cannot talk about contacts concerning the military sorts we can only assume that minute section of witness testimony from disclosure may just be true.<br />
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This is very, VERY confusing. As why is Ptaah saying that what happened to the Hills was untrue and caused by delusions infered by the electromagnetic field of the Earth. Where as in Contact report 37, Semjase explains that they are beings from the Zeta Reticuli star system. ?????? This is the first real contradiction I've read in all these cantact reports. And furthermore, though not mentioned anywhere in the Contact reports, how could someone like Whitley Strieber not be considered to have a real experience very similar to the Hills as well as Travis Walton. I believe in all of this, but this puts a strain on my belief, only as it is such clear contridiction. Could someone please explain this glaring discrepancy!<br />
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well???<br />
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I would have to agree with you, Contact Note 37 regarding Semjase's comments contradicts Ptaah's more recent statements regarding the abduction of the Hills couple. The Plejarens are also human and prone to mistakes, why Ptaah chose to counter his daughter's remarks remains a mystery?<br />
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Maybe it's an attempt to stop other people's delusional aspiration in claiming the same type of abductions from the same or different ET...who knows..maybe you should ask Ptaah himself? There are just too many agendas, both Earthly and non-Earthly sources in this "equation"<br />
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There are several inconsistencies in the Contact(37 & 424) reporting data - of which this is one. In 1975 Semyase says the Hill's WERE taken and experimented upon and 2006 Ptaah tells Billy that the 'electromagnetic earth energies are the causal agent of the Hills 'abduction.<br />
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While I am not 'muddying over Ptaah's comments, perhaps - it behooves ALL of us reading ANY material to cross reference it and to think about the consequences to exposing more than necessary to others. <br />
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Thomas57 that was a good find.:) I think someone told a little too much info than was suppose to be known at the time "Semjase" and maybe my guess is the High Council instructed Ptaah to reject all claims to ease fears in man of Earth. At a later date all may be revealed. There are some truths that must be revealed at the right time. I'm sure Semjase was grounded for at least 100 years of year 1,000 year life cycle. :) j/k <br />
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The Plejarens had acknowledged that they were too trusting of earth human beings and that they had taken our words at face value until the truth got the better of them.<br />
Also they didn't have the sonean technology at that time to make things unequivocally clear.<br />
As they said they aren't perfect nor are they superhuman beings capable of everything.<br />
As for the electromagnetic disturbances of the earth which influenced the hills, I think they were referring to the Giza intelligence's telenotic electromagnetic mind control devices used on them to bring about a false memory just as they had influenced several other human beings in the past.<br />
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I think that Newinitiation is right. Basically they initially jumped to a conclusion based on false evidence (witness testimonials and similar things), which they also do explain in CR424. <br />
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i feel it being sad that some how we cant gain there trust as in helping our world by telling our goverments into getting there act together.Another thing, how on earth can we even think of lowering our population down to 1/2 billion...people have babys even if they cant even aford to feed them..how do you nuter a population? with new tecnology there would be new jobs,and that could end the use of fossel fuels, why stop using telpathicly in contacting us humans? In so doing,giving some humans of this earth the knowledge to acomplishing these things, why are we just a tourist stop? like china we have nothing to sell are trade with you,you take what you want and help if you want,i truely do want to see the big picture and not wate till death to visit the spirit world... how do we live to be 999 years old...what do you see in advances for earths near future ?<br />
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Mrnorm as they have stated in there situation as well that they had to earn there capabilities through responsibility and as they progressed voila new ideas came as they correctly used what they were currently in possession of. Although we are a loooooooooooooooooooong ways off from correctly using all our capabilities we have to start off one step at a time and reducing the population so everyone can benefit would be a good start. :) Any idea turns into a destructive purpose you know you are going in the wrong direction. It must be a balanced progressive growth. <br />
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How in a hill of beans can you lower a population of 7 billion to a 1/2 billon with out a catastrophe of some kind and who would ever want a world war are sickness of any kind... . zer0 population groth will never happen not unless the ET's step in and as you say that will never happen not in a thoooouusan ---trillion years ..just knowing by what has all ready taken place in earths humanity...i wonder if there has been worlds like us in the past and how it has turned out for them the last 21,000,000 years are 3500 years are any where between years <br />
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Mrnorm. the proposed idea means lowering the population in a safe and humane way and setting a fair and balanced criteria for having children which if you ask me, is sorely needed anyways. people with no business having children are HAVING children all over the world not to mention the church saying "go forth and multiply" only for the intent of creating more stupid followers. Billy and the Plejaran are suggesting we take 'breaks' from having kids at certain intervals and setting up a system of pre-requisites that establish whether or not you should have a kid. for example:if someone is addicted to crystal-meth, and receives welfare then maybe they shouldn't have a child until they can be an honest and positive contributor to his community i.e; having a job, being productive in some way and not doing drugs.there are millions of people of every race, all over the planet, irresponsibly having children everyday without first thinking about these factors. as I mentioned before, taking a break from child births for the given amount of time could begin an age gap that with time, can dramatically ease the strain on infrastructure, resources and clean and healthy living space. no one is suggesting a catastrophe but rather a unified consciousness on the topic of overpopulation and a neutral positive assessment of this crisis that is unfolding in front of our eyes.<br />
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We don't have to lower the population to 500 million, I think it is impossible for Earth to tell you the truth. We just have to reach a level where every person has a home and some work. I mean if I were on the outside looking into Earth and let's say there are 8 billion people and 2 billion of those are homeless and starving. How can we be called human for that massive miscalculation of our fellow man. HMMMMMMMMMMMM I think a more reasonable number for our intelligence level is around 3-3.5 billion with only 2 kids max per family. If we could reach that I think our world would look like a responsible one. <br />
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Look guys i agree with what you just said 101% but this cant even be done with out world leadership... and theres no known power on earth that can do what you say in the next 498.9 years with out ET intervention of some kind, people are going to just keep poping out babys,doing drugs,killing-well you know the rest...So lets take this brake of population control... its just not going to happen unless ET steps in... any thing elce is just a wish list sorry to say...I have read where other worlds have taken up our stile of religion and they have failed to the point that they have no world any more...life is predestined ... were just living in its space... unless theres an intervension of some kind... also theres more than one ET out there that just might be making intervension plans right now for the future of earth... good are bad... even tho billy went 500 years into earths future ... hes not aloud to tell what he knows are seen...<br />
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Like Yoda from Star Wars would say, that is why you fail because you do not believe you can do it. This is a very easy and simplistic task. It takes certain human qualities to achieve it however, courage, determination, duty, math, science, etc. Unfortunately not many are educated enough to make it happen but if they work together they will. <br />
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Based on a planet the size of Earth and its natural ability to sustain a human population without overstressing its available resources accordingly to its land mass area, the maximum size comes out to about 529 million human beings. This figure is derived from the natural regenerative cycle of balance between the impact of humans on the environment and the planet’s ability to heal itself and continue without undue stress.<br />
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This figure takes into consideration that ALL dams are taken down, nuclear energy production ceased, massive cities reduced to rural areas, former productive areas returned to farmlands and other “green” projects to replace those that produce a large carbon footprint along with renewable environmental friendly energy.<br />
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However, Earth can temporarily sustain a higher number than 529 million say around 1-2 billion, but drastic changes must take place that will require an adjusted formulation to the above statement. For example retaining some dams to increase the food production areas and densely populated areas subjected to self-sustaining environmental standards as not to strain other land mass areas. It can be worked out and at the moment is probably the most logical and reasonable approach.<br />
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However many obstacles are facing this resolution because of political and economic reasons, larger countries may want to keep their population high, for it equates to more power and influence than one which is small. <br />
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That would be the correct number but our population can barely with sense and reason calculate enough homes and jobs. How can they fathom 500,000 million. It is best to reach an attainable goal and as they see the quality of life increase dramatically for the better then maybe we through some reason we might I highly doubt would would reach that number through our own reasoning rather than possible wars or natural catastrophies and stresses on the planet. You must factor in the stubborn quality which currently prevails and will not allow man to utilize reason at the current time. Only through gradual and reasonable population decrease will it ever occur. I think our stresses on the planet however as they say will reach a peak in 2012 maybe that will be the time people will awaken to reason. <br />
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Im in total agreement, you three are wise...thanks for that, lets just hope some day the world will change for the better and of corse sooner better than... later but not in my life time sorry to say...<br />
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I have solved the financial burden, remember the Asket vacation tour when she utilized the material changing device that transforms objects to similar coinage or gold of earth. Billy could have a fort knox over at the center and purchase all the businesses and run the world peacefully. :) j/k<br />
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in the summer of 1975 i wrote about the assassination attempt on Ronald Regain's life, after giving a speech from a podium and on his way to his car, there thire would be and attemp on his life and he would not die... i wrote many other perdictions at that time and sealed it in an envelope... and i knew then as i know today no one would beleave that i did such a thing, execpt for a few, but i did this and have had many visions since that have come true,but what the hay...<br />
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billy could of fix his money problems if he would of gotten some help from ET by finding lost gold that would of never ever of been found no other way except by the help from the out side world,and then invested it GE or Philleps or HP back in 1975<br />
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I have solved the financial burden, remember the Asket vacation tour when she utilized the material changing device that transforms objects to similar coinage or gold of earth. Billy could have a fort knox over at the center and purchase all the businesses and run the world peacefully. :) j/k<br />
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Dream on Mark...<br />
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in the summer of 1975 i wrote about the assassination attempt on Ronald Regain's life, after giving a speech from a podium and on his way to his car, there thire would be and attemp on his life and he would not die... i wrote many other perdictions at that time and sealed it in an envelope... and i knew then as i know today no one would beleave that i did such a thing, execpt for a few, but i did this and have had many visions since that have come true,but what the hay...<br />
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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
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Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..<br />
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.<br />
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Things happen all the time but because now facts and figures get reported though out the world 1000 times faster than just 100 years ago ... because we here about every thing all the time as soon as it happens no mater where it happens at... we know about it with in mins. things always happen but thanks to radio TV the internet ect...we here about now and all the time over and over again...<br />
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i should add... things that happen now have happen 100 years ago 1000 years ago 10,000 years agoo a million years ago ./.. but now we just here about it now over and over again as soon as it happens ... things are getting worse are better... the world and its weather is just alive as a living world that makes changes to its self on a dailey bases<br />
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things arent getting worse ... ARE'NT ! <br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
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Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Samari said ... ==<br />
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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..<br />
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--[[User:Samari|Samari]] 07:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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Things happen all the time but because now facts and figures get reported though out the world 1000 times faster than just 100 years ago ... because we here about every thing all the time as soon as it happens no mater where it happens at... we know about it with in mins. things always happen but thanks to radio TV the internet ect...we here about now and all the time over and over again...<br />
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i should add... things that happen now have happen 100 years ago 1000 years ago 10,000 years agoo a million years ago ./.. but now we just here about it now over and over again as soon as it happens ... things are getting worse are better... the world and its weather is just alive as a living world that makes changes to its self on a dailey bases<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.<br />
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.<br />
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Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.<br />
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.<br />
Peace in Wisdom,<br />
Kevin<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Samari said ... ==<br />
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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..<br />
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==<br />
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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.<br />
Peace in Wisdom<br />
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--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:07, 3 June 2011 (BST)<br />
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Things happen all the time but because now facts and figures get reported though out the world 1000 times faster than just 100 years ago ... because we here about every thing all the time as soon as it happens no mater where it happens at... we know about it with in mins. things always happen but thanks to radio TV the internet ect...we here about now and all the time over and over again...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:14, 6 October 2011 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Mrnormhttps://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:FIGU_Bulletin_001&diff=17269Talk:FIGU Bulletin 0012011-09-22T17:29:06Z<p>Mrnorm: Comment provided by Mrnorm - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== Ken Werner said ... ==<br />
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I first obtained my copy of the over-sized "Contact from the Pleiades, Vol 1" in 1980. I was shocked at how much it changed my life. <br />
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The more I obtained about the case (especially the contact notes), the deeper it hit me. There is no way to avoid the message Eduard brings, unless your mind is closed. Unfortunately, the majority of Earths inhabitants posses such narrow thinking.<br />
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Anyone with an open mind, and questions about what is fed to them as "the truth", will be truly changed by Mr. Meier and his message. <br />
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I remember when I borrowed the 'Contact from the Pleiades Vol 1'. I usually don't like to tell people what happened because it was so weird. I remember being absolutely in awe, not a good kind of awe, more like a ' my god, this stuff really is for real and it's sorta scary but plenty interesting' kind of way. Then I walked into the next room after I looked at the book and read part of it and bumped into these 2 dark blacker than black things. No faces, just blacker than black. I was pretty used to spirits but this wasn't spirits. And vanished fairly quick. I thought the one felt a little more solid than usual but still, it was just weird. And then I went into a type of shock state like a zombie yet functional of daily stuff and managing my kids, but it took a couple months to recover and I didn't like to think about it. the black things. things of no form. But the Pleiadian stuff, most realistic review of human history and life I ever read. So much of this stuff resonates deep in the soul. I remember feeling glad to find out we're not alone in the Universe. It's a creepy, apprehensive sort of glad. I know these guys(Plejarans) are real and all, but it's still sort of creepy when you think about it long enough. And yeah, it's too bad most people are too ignorant or uninterested to dig into something besides the 'same ol' and learn something new. Or use their mental discipline. Sometimes that aspect really disgusts me because it all comes back to how we live on this planet and how a whole lot of people don't care to rethink birth/population control for one thing. Or how man could easily turn earth into another mars... <br />
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Hi guys,<br />
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My name is Peter and I am from Stirling in the UK. I have not long ago discovered this forum and I like it alot.<br />
I am a bit shy so I wont write much about me but maybe when I will get confortable, you guys will get to know me better!<br />
My main hobbies are astrology and watching movies. I also like outdoor activites but the temperature has been bad for the last weeks or so here in Stirling.<br />
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I was wondering if anyone else here is from the UK too?<br />
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I am glad to have joined this forum!<br />
Cya!<br />
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== Jamesm said ... ==<br />
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Hi Vamnembobon, its not really a forum, its a wiki with the capability of anyone making comments on each articles' discussion.<br />
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I'm living in Dumbarton, quite near Stirling. I don't come from here though. I grew up in Plymouth.<br />
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im 100% sure that Kal Korff has made contact with his extratesticals...dont ya know... <br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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There are beings walking among us that are not of this earth but were borned here just like you and i and Jmmanul...they have been placed here to to gain our trust and understanding,just by using,a not so simple majic and munipulation of the hand...thay can also hover off the ground all by the mulnipulation of adams.... IFO's can move thought air and water without displaceing the air and water .... because the spaceship repells adams... a I F O will not create a bang when braking the sound bearer... unless the pilot wants it to... the ship would not create a breez of any kind, even if it would fly right by you...it doesnt touch the air are water when flying though it...like when in the ocean....its a bitch being 3000 years behind...are so...dont ya think ?<br />
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Mrnorm you have billions of lifetimes to go as a material life form. You may want to reconsider your statement :D<br />
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thought out the 22,000,000 years the Plejarens have had space ships with all types of propulsion systems ...these systems have been created for spaceships , name three of them out of the past 500 types in the last 1,000,000 years of space travel,who know what space ship flight system will be invented first by the USA are any other country...Remember we are being visited by at least 3 other ET's if not hundreds of others ... whos to say...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:29, 22 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== interwake said ... ==<br />
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The explanation given for electro magnetic delusion of abductions is beneath even the intelligence of the Giza penis heads. Sorry the truth penetrates even the sphinxcter of the bottomless pyramids. Shame on you dear Aqurius with Moon in Scorpio. One simply must update to better technology from NASA if they cant tell one alien lie from another.<br />
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== newinitiation said ... ==<br />
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Billy and the Plejarens talk about contacts outside of military and noncivilian kind.<br />
There exists many purported reports from Military sources alleging contacts with aliens (or is this the work of the shadowy group?).<br />
Because Billy and the plejarens cannot talk about contacts concerning the military sorts we can only assume that minute section of witness testimony from disclosure may just be true.<br />
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This is very, VERY confusing. As why is Ptaah saying that what happened to the Hills was untrue and caused by delusions infered by the electromagnetic field of the Earth. Where as in Contact report 37, Semjase explains that they are beings from the Zeta Reticuli star system. ?????? This is the first real contradiction I've read in all these cantact reports. And furthermore, though not mentioned anywhere in the Contact reports, how could someone like Whitley Strieber not be considered to have a real experience very similar to the Hills as well as Travis Walton. I believe in all of this, but this puts a strain on my belief, only as it is such clear contridiction. Could someone please explain this glaring discrepancy!<br />
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well???<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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John,<br />
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I would have to agree with you, Contact Note 37 regarding Semjase's comments contradicts Ptaah's more recent statements regarding the abduction of the Hills couple. The Plejarens are also human and prone to mistakes, why Ptaah chose to counter his daughter's remarks remains a mystery?<br />
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Maybe it's an attempt to stop other people's delusional aspiration in claiming the same type of abductions from the same or different ET...who knows..maybe you should ask Ptaah himself? There are just too many agendas, both Earthly and non-Earthly sources in this "equation"<br />
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There are several inconsistencies in the Contact(37 & 424) reporting data - of which this is one. In 1975 Semyase says the Hill's WERE taken and experimented upon and 2006 Ptaah tells Billy that the 'electromagnetic earth energies are the causal agent of the Hills 'abduction.<br />
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While I am not 'muddying over Ptaah's comments, perhaps - it behooves ALL of us reading ANY material to cross reference it and to think about the consequences to exposing more than necessary to others. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Thomas57 that was a good find.:) I think someone told a little too much info than was suppose to be known at the time "Semjase" and maybe my guess is the High Council instructed Ptaah to reject all claims to ease fears in man of Earth. At a later date all may be revealed. There are some truths that must be revealed at the right time. I'm sure Semjase was grounded for at least 100 years of year 1,000 year life cycle. :) j/k <br />
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== Newinitiation said ... ==<br />
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The Plejarens had acknowledged that they were too trusting of earth human beings and that they had taken our words at face value until the truth got the better of them.<br />
Also they didn't have the sonean technology at that time to make things unequivocally clear.<br />
As they said they aren't perfect nor are they superhuman beings capable of everything.<br />
As for the electromagnetic disturbances of the earth which influenced the hills, I think they were referring to the Giza intelligence's telenotic electromagnetic mind control devices used on them to bring about a false memory just as they had influenced several other human beings in the past.<br />
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I think that Newinitiation is right. Basically they initially jumped to a conclusion based on false evidence (witness testimonials and similar things), which they also do explain in CR424. <br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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i feel it being sad that some how we cant gain there trust as in helping our world by telling our goverments into getting there act together.Another thing, how on earth can we even think of lowering our population down to 1/2 billion...people have babys even if they cant even aford to feed them..how do you nuter a population? with new tecnology there would be new jobs,and that could end the use of fossel fuels, why stop using telpathicly in contacting us humans? In so doing,giving some humans of this earth the knowledge to acomplishing these things, why are we just a tourist stop? like china we have nothing to sell are trade with you,you take what you want and help if you want,i truely do want to see the big picture and not wate till death to visit the spirit world... how do we live to be 999 years old...what do you see in advances for earths near future ?<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Mrnorm as they have stated in there situation as well that they had to earn there capabilities through responsibility and as they progressed voila new ideas came as they correctly used what they were currently in possession of. Although we are a loooooooooooooooooooong ways off from correctly using all our capabilities we have to start off one step at a time and reducing the population so everyone can benefit would be a good start. :) Any idea turns into a destructive purpose you know you are going in the wrong direction. It must be a balanced progressive growth. <br />
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How in a hill of beans can you lower a population of 7 billion to a 1/2 billon with out a catastrophe of some kind and who would ever want a world war are sickness of any kind... . zer0 population groth will never happen not unless the ET's step in and as you say that will never happen not in a thoooouusan ---trillion years ..just knowing by what has all ready taken place in earths humanity...i wonder if there has been worlds like us in the past and how it has turned out for them the last 21,000,000 years are 3500 years are any where between years <br />
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Mrnorm. the proposed idea means lowering the population in a safe and humane way and setting a fair and balanced criteria for having children which if you ask me, is sorely needed anyways. people with no business having children are HAVING children all over the world not to mention the church saying "go forth and multiply" only for the intent of creating more stupid followers. Billy and the Plejaran are suggesting we take 'breaks' from having kids at certain intervals and setting up a system of pre-requisites that establish whether or not you should have a kid. for example:if someone is addicted to crystal-meth, and receives welfare then maybe they shouldn't have a child until they can be an honest and positive contributor to his community i.e; having a job, being productive in some way and not doing drugs.there are millions of people of every race, all over the planet, irresponsibly having children everyday without first thinking about these factors. as I mentioned before, taking a break from child births for the given amount of time could begin an age gap that with time, can dramatically ease the strain on infrastructure, resources and clean and healthy living space. no one is suggesting a catastrophe but rather a unified consciousness on the topic of overpopulation and a neutral positive assessment of this crisis that is unfolding in front of our eyes.<br />
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We don't have to lower the population to 500 million, I think it is impossible for Earth to tell you the truth. We just have to reach a level where every person has a home and some work. I mean if I were on the outside looking into Earth and let's say there are 8 billion people and 2 billion of those are homeless and starving. How can we be called human for that massive miscalculation of our fellow man. HMMMMMMMMMMMM I think a more reasonable number for our intelligence level is around 3-3.5 billion with only 2 kids max per family. If we could reach that I think our world would look like a responsible one. <br />
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Look guys i agree with what you just said 101% but this cant even be done with out world leadership... and theres no known power on earth that can do what you say in the next 498.9 years with out ET intervention of some kind, people are going to just keep poping out babys,doing drugs,killing-well you know the rest...So lets take this brake of population control... its just not going to happen unless ET steps in... any thing elce is just a wish list sorry to say...I have read where other worlds have taken up our stile of religion and they have failed to the point that they have no world any more...life is predestined ... were just living in its space... unless theres an intervension of some kind... also theres more than one ET out there that just might be making intervension plans right now for the future of earth... good are bad... even tho billy went 500 years into earths future ... hes not aloud to tell what he knows are seen...<br />
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== Roob said ... ==<br />
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I was pretty sure I read that the plejarens can have upto 3 wives. So why does this chapter say that Plejarens are monogomous?<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Plejaran wives get one husband only. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I can't imagine 3 wives. Is that 3 wives for each planet residence you occupy. Let's say you have time share on 3,000 planets, that would be a whole lot of loving. :) j/k <br />
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Mark your a nut:) but I like where your going!<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Hi Roob.<br />
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It is true that the Plejarens are monogamous, even though the Plejaren men may have several wives. The book "The Law of Love" explains that Earth humans have a false understanding of monogamy. Even though the men may have several wives, the marriage is still considered as one bond and one union (mono-gamy = one-marriage) with the man and the wives. This sentence from the Goblet of Truth gives some more details:<br />
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32)And it is rightful that the woman has one man only, because it is only through one man alone that a procreation (fertilisation) for descendants can come about; a man, however, may have three women, because he is capable of undertaking several procreations (fertilisations) with several women, but it is given for him to be able to be fair to all women in all things and in their provision and in their equality; and if a man has several women then a bond (marriage) applies with each of them, within which the other women are also included and take part.<br />
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It is one bond of a loving relationship, even though there are several members in the one union.<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I have an ALTERNATE interpretation. Once the the BIG BANG occured we were all in one tiny spec of existence, HENCE maximum distribution of outgoing matter once the BANG occured. EVENTUALLY once we reach that absolute absolutum they speak of we will all be together ONCE again. :) We will have a ton of wives reaching level 1 absolutum once accumulated. I am ABSOLUTELY full of joy at this time. :) j/k<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Am i wrong here... 21,000,000 million years ago you had or created your first space ship for outer space yet you say that the plejarens are only 3500 years ahead of us ... usa...Im sure the plejarens would have every thing under control if they so wished when it comes to contacting earth goverments on the down low...What is the mission of the plejarens ... if not to make a impact on earth humans... 300 years here and what have you to show for it... hummm?....Humans still have all these wars...starving people GREED and so on...truly how have you helped? Giving and taking must be equel... not if you have greed and the rich get richer and want more... you had 300 years to make a difference in that thinking.... all you do is come to earth for Vacation...to show off your new beamships...PREDECTIONS for 1977... you could repeat these same predections for the next 30 years and still come out about the same... ya think? now where are these Plejarens when you need them ... thats right there doing there mission which is to help humanity.... ya think?THE mission of the Plejarens should be to contact heads of goverments and the ones that need to know the truth,and the ones that are hungry for power and world domenence and profit your job is to convence these power hungry nuts to change there way of thinking.....make sure they dont gain access to the beamships, after all...your 3500 years more advance than us ... so think like it and act like it ...as if, like earth humans could get control to a beamship with out the know how of doing such a thing... this world needs world leadership... just like your world with the counsel on another planets...... how is this world going to learn and change with out plejarens learership and how the consel works for you...at least half of this worlds population beleaves in ET's now... show them ... us that your human.. but do it at a far...TV... just tell earth the truth ... in time they will learn....300 years the plejarens have been here and yet i dont see where you have been a benafit to earth just by talking to one person and mind thinking to 2 women...by now you should know what steps to take and who to take them with... you know by doing the right thing at the right time can make all of the right changes for this greedy humanity...... maybe i see now that you see this world as being hopeless do to you took a jump into the future... but yet your all still here you havnt 100% pulled out of this world...not all of man kind would demand offical contact with the plejarens are whoever...just pick out the need to know people of earth... after all you have watch our TV broadcasts, talk to the world in this way...COME ON ... your advanced by more than 21 million years but yet your thinking like your only 3500 years advanced than us...it needs repeating so it can sink in... ya think...<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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They have given every opportunity to change our fate but we didnt' listen. I guess you could say we aren't educated enough yet to comprehend common sense. There are many levels of understanding, once we reach a certain HIGH level of understanding as a whole then we may be rewared with new adventures. First we must conquer our rather simple meager problems on Earth. If we can't solve elemtary level decision making how can we wisely upgrade ahead of our time. :) You also have to take into account this is the free will universe guidelines thus by laws of creation no manipulation can take place under certain circumstances. <br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Who is this "we didnt lison people" THE problem is ,is that it was said at a wisper... that wisper didnt get the rich&greedy peoples atension...now did it...theres lots of peoples lissoning out there and you know it...so dont use that for an excuce any longer...you got to stand on there breathing tube if you want to get them to lisson and change there ways ... theres got to be a buck in it for them... the "greedy"... all im asking is that the E T's show there face and be up front and honest with people of earth... and stop it with the GAMES...if we arent educated enough... Educate us...we wont reach this high level of understanding untill the Plejarens show there face to the right people...earth is just looking for guidence in the right direction...and not manipulation are any up grades ... your putting the carage before the horse, your making a mounton out of a moul hill... our way of thinking needs to be up graded and this needs to be done for the rich and greedy and powerfull...no more excuces with your 3500 advanced years way of thinking... where theres a way theres a free will...Our goverments dont know about your free will way of thinking... Ya Think ?<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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That would be the normal response from current Earth education level. Give me what I have not earned. I suggest reading the spirit teachings in detail to further advance your thinking and then eventually................... in time and with patience, something lacking here on our planet Earth shall our problems be solved. If one were to show there face then the danger would be great would it not, imagine how many people would try to manipulate a fraction of there capabilities for incorrect purposes. If they cannot currently utilize the simplistic design in truth how can the with a straight eye utilize more complex abilities truthfully. I suggest each person find inner peace first and then venture out into other venues. :)<br />
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mmmmm, Mrnorm <br />
your asking for the cut, the slice, the lift, the entry and finally, after the chewing(which you have finally done like a calf)expect us to taste it for you!! You are a knave.<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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all im asking for is hold the carret in front of the horse ... its that simple,but first they have to see the carret maybe touch it to see if its real ... sure they will try to take advantage of the happenings ... how many times have i read that the ET's have talk to people on earth though out the centurys...and comunacate with outher worlds of all advances of education... well thats all ive ever been asking..comunacating, not passing on of secrets of any kind... im just asking to tell the truth so the world can deal with it, that its.. seen and be heard... so how are we to be educated if theres no teacher...take the bible ,the new testament, 2000 years and they got it all bacaswords, they bend the truth...today and it always has been..church is for profit not spirit ...Im asking for talk ,communication ..nothing elce...again its that simple...the ET's have shown them selves for 1000's of years ...now be up front with it all...<br />
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They have communicated and have guided us on how to reach a higher level. We learn the spirit teachings, implement them, evovle as a world, then who knows what happens next...............:) Imagine yourself an ET from another planet coming to a hostile mindset such as Earth that is unknowing of ET life and not even in the same zip code in terms of knowledge, would you want to meet up with those people. I wouldn't until they have paid there dues like every race in the cosmos. <br />
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I see where in the future that contact with ET now or in the next 500 years still hasnt made any important changes to the future earth to any good degree and that were still barbarous in nature and in wars...and that money is being wasted on moon settelments ... so it appears what ever ET contact that takes place now and in the next 500 years has had Know effect for the spirit future of man...so it looks like there has not been any worth while contact to speak of ...discribing things of the future is like discribing a car from the out side but tells nothing of what makes it tick...you need to know the guts of it all,telling authors what things look like doesnt do a thing ...its sad to think that authors have no thought of there own to come up with ideas of there own... its like saying were going to have citys over the oceans are under oceans are under ground are in space are on the moon are two mile tall buildings... its called imagination...if authors want to help though the help of the ET"s you have to tell them how and what makes it tick... what makes it work...whats it for...ET needs to thought transfer to inventors ...But whos to say there not doing this already but maybe earths man kind is not capable with out ET"s intervention...thats right ...what intervention ...<br />
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== interwake said ... ==<br />
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The explanation given for electro magnetic delusion of abductions is beneath even the intelligence of the Giza penis heads. Sorry the truth penetrates even the sphinxcter of the bottomless pyramids. Shame on you dear Aqurius with Moon in Scorpio. One simply must update to better technology from NASA if they cant tell one alien lie from another.<br />
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Billy and the Plejarens talk about contacts outside of military and noncivilian kind.<br />
There exists many purported reports from Military sources alleging contacts with aliens (or is this the work of the shadowy group?).<br />
Because Billy and the plejarens cannot talk about contacts concerning the military sorts we can only assume that minute section of witness testimony from disclosure may just be true.<br />
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This is very, VERY confusing. As why is Ptaah saying that what happened to the Hills was untrue and caused by delusions infered by the electromagnetic field of the Earth. Where as in Contact report 37, Semjase explains that they are beings from the Zeta Reticuli star system. ?????? This is the first real contradiction I've read in all these cantact reports. And furthermore, though not mentioned anywhere in the Contact reports, how could someone like Whitley Strieber not be considered to have a real experience very similar to the Hills as well as Travis Walton. I believe in all of this, but this puts a strain on my belief, only as it is such clear contridiction. Could someone please explain this glaring discrepancy!<br />
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well???<br />
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I would have to agree with you, Contact Note 37 regarding Semjase's comments contradicts Ptaah's more recent statements regarding the abduction of the Hills couple. The Plejarens are also human and prone to mistakes, why Ptaah chose to counter his daughter's remarks remains a mystery?<br />
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Maybe it's an attempt to stop other people's delusional aspiration in claiming the same type of abductions from the same or different ET...who knows..maybe you should ask Ptaah himself? There are just too many agendas, both Earthly and non-Earthly sources in this "equation"<br />
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There are several inconsistencies in the Contact(37 & 424) reporting data - of which this is one. In 1975 Semyase says the Hill's WERE taken and experimented upon and 2006 Ptaah tells Billy that the 'electromagnetic earth energies are the causal agent of the Hills 'abduction.<br />
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While I am not 'muddying over Ptaah's comments, perhaps - it behooves ALL of us reading ANY material to cross reference it and to think about the consequences to exposing more than necessary to others. <br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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Thomas57 that was a good find.:) I think someone told a little too much info than was suppose to be known at the time "Semjase" and maybe my guess is the High Council instructed Ptaah to reject all claims to ease fears in man of Earth. At a later date all may be revealed. There are some truths that must be revealed at the right time. I'm sure Semjase was grounded for at least 100 years of year 1,000 year life cycle. :) j/k <br />
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The Plejarens had acknowledged that they were too trusting of earth human beings and that they had taken our words at face value until the truth got the better of them.<br />
Also they didn't have the sonean technology at that time to make things unequivocally clear.<br />
As they said they aren't perfect nor are they superhuman beings capable of everything.<br />
As for the electromagnetic disturbances of the earth which influenced the hills, I think they were referring to the Giza intelligence's telenotic electromagnetic mind control devices used on them to bring about a false memory just as they had influenced several other human beings in the past.<br />
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I think that Newinitiation is right. Basically they initially jumped to a conclusion based on false evidence (witness testimonials and similar things), which they also do explain in CR424. <br />
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i feel it being sad that some how we cant gain there trust as in helping our world by telling our goverments into getting there act together.Another thing, how on earth can we even think of lowering our population down to 1/2 billion...people have babys even if they cant even aford to feed them..how do you nuter a population? with new tecnology there would be new jobs,and that could end the use of fossel fuels, why stop using telpathicly in contacting us humans? In so doing,giving some humans of this earth the knowledge to acomplishing these things, why are we just a tourist stop? like china we have nothing to sell are trade with you,you take what you want and help if you want,i truely do want to see the big picture and not wate till death to visit the spirit world... how do we live to be 999 years old...what do you see in advances for earths near future ?<br />
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Mrnorm as they have stated in there situation as well that they had to earn there capabilities through responsibility and as they progressed voila new ideas came as they correctly used what they were currently in possession of. Although we are a loooooooooooooooooooong ways off from correctly using all our capabilities we have to start off one step at a time and reducing the population so everyone can benefit would be a good start. :) Any idea turns into a destructive purpose you know you are going in the wrong direction. It must be a balanced progressive growth. <br />
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How in a hill of beans can you lower a population of 7 billion to a 1/2 billon with out a catastrophe of some kind and who would ever want a world war are sickness of any kind... . zer0 population groth will never happen not unless the ET's step in and as you say that will never happen not in a thoooouusan ---trillion years ..just knowing by what has all ready taken place in earths humanity...i wonder if there has been worlds like us in the past and how it has turned out for them the last 21,000,000 years are 3500 years are any where between years <br />
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Was earthls moon colonise by exter terrestrials of any sort? Was earth;s moon once like earth, with bright blue sky forest, people and animals and citys and stuff?<br />
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it makes sense but im not sure about the ape, ...but i am sure that we did not descend from the ape...<br />
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it has been said that pljarens had space ships 21,000,000 years ago,did they have apes descend from them back at that time and by now those apes just might have spaceships of there own....are is it with the ape... once an ape always a ape...there fore and are you dont advance unless its though the spirit of creation and nature in human form only, but yet you tell of other worlds of life forms that have blue skin but look human that other forms that are vary tall and or small and have wings and fly are with long necks, are in lizard form... do they know of this spirit creation of love ? are is it to each there own...and the answer is -- no the moon was not ever like earth and or ever colonized and there is truely never a real need for it to be...not from earth peoples...and why would ET's of any form want to live there when they have space ships of all kinds shapes and sizes...also man has always been man, no ape relationship eather way...<br />
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Was earthls moon colonise by exter terrestrials of any sort? Was earth;s moon once like earth, with bright blue sky forest, people and animals and citys and stuff?<br />
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it makes sense but im not sure about the ape, ...but i am sure that we did not descend from the ape...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 17:07, 21 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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Sanjin - Why did you decide to change ''respectively'' to ''viz.'', please? Thanks.<br />
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Well, respectively is not the right way to translate "resp.", because in the English language respectively means "each separately in the order mentioned", while the German resp. most often restates the previous point in a different or more precise view.<br />
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There are several other phrases which I could have used like: "or rather", "(or) more precisely", "namely", "that is", "i.e.", etc.<br />
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Viz., which is a contraction from videlicet is something I learned about recently and can be read about here:<br />
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I think that it is very close if not the same as the German "resp.". <br />
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One other thing which it not 100% correct in this translation is "animals and other creatures". The German term Getier was translated as creatures since there is no better term but there is a slight difference. Creatures may also refer to human beings, while Getier does not. It was translated the same in the GoT, but it leaves small gaps in the logic, which are in the relentless original not present.<br />
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Thanks Sanjin I agree with you on this issue. Viz does look more appropriate.<br />
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Hey, I asked Mariann Mondria Uehlinger about one of the sentences, because I thought that I didn't understand it properly. At first she replied that there seems to be something wrong with the sentence and that she will ask Billy.<br />
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Then she sent me an e-mail which basically states that Billy said that the sentence in the original text is missing a word. Looks like it wasn't completely relentless as I thought. Could have been that Billy made a mistake. He looked very human to me. <br />
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Here is Mariann's e-mail:<br />
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Habe heute nachmittag Billy gefragt weil mir der Satz wie bereits vorgängig geschrieben unlogisch schien. Billy bestätigte, dass ein Wort fehle, nämlich "keine". Der Satz heisst dann demzufolge richtig:<br />
Und Gott, so glaubt der Gläubige, verhindere, dass er im Leben keine Sicherheit habe und sich nicht wie eine treibende Feder im Wind fühle.<br />
And God, so the believer believes, would prevent that he (the believer) would have no security in life and that he wouldn’t feel like a drifting feather in the wind.<br />
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Bezüglich "drifting" bin ich mir nicht sicher, aber propelling ist meines Erachtens falsch, das hört sich eher wie Propeller an, oder wie drehende Rotorblätter eines Helikopters. Würdest du diese Korrekturen bitte im Forum veröffentlichen, so dass diejenige Person, die das übersetzt hat, die entsprechenden Korrekturen anbringt? Wäre lieb von Dir. <br />
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Upon awakening the infinite,power of wisdom is limitless. Glory be to the Creation. :)<br />
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Upon awakening the infinite,power of wisdom is limitless. Glory be to the Creation. :)<br />
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Usedname - hate to break it to you but you sound like your worshipping theCreation. Creation does not need worshipping.<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 16:44, 21 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Roob said ... ==<br />
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I was pretty sure I read that the plejarens can have upto 3 wives. So why does this chapter say that Plejarens are monogomous?<br />
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--Roob 07:20, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Plejaran wives get one husband only. <br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 07:26, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I can't imagine 3 wives. Is that 3 wives for each planet residence you occupy. Let's say you have time share on 3,000 planets, that would be a whole lot of loving. :) j/k <br />
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--Mark 12:39, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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Mark your a nut:) but I like where your going!<br />
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--zameen 16:57, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Hi Roob.<br />
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It is true that the Plejarens are monogamous, even though the Plejaren men may have several wives. The book "The Law of Love" explains that Earth humans have a false understanding of monogamy. Even though the men may have several wives, the marriage is still considered as one bond and one union (mono-gamy = one-marriage) with the man and the wives. This sentence from the Goblet of Truth gives some more details:<br />
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32)And it is rightful that the woman has one man only, because it is only through one man alone that a procreation (fertilisation) for descendants can come about; a man, however, may have three women, because he is capable of undertaking several procreations (fertilisations) with several women, but it is given for him to be able to be fair to all women in all things and in their provision and in their equality; and if a man has several women then a bond (marriage) applies with each of them, within which the other women are also included and take part.<br />
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It is one bond of a loving relationship, even though there are several members in the one union.<br />
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--Sanjin 19:16, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I have an ALTERNATE interpretation. Once the the BIG BANG occured we were all in one tiny spec of existence, HENCE maximum distribution of outgoing matter once the BANG occured. EVENTUALLY once we reach that absolute absolutum they speak of we will all be together ONCE again. :) We will have a ton of wives reaching level 1 absolutum once accumulated. I am ABSOLUTELY full of joy at this time. :) j/k<br />
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--Mark 22:13, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Am i wrong here... 21,000,000 million years ago you had or created your first space ship for outer space yet you say that the plejarens are only 3500 years ahead of us ... usa...Im sure the plejarens would have every thing under control if they so wished when it comes to contacting earth goverments on the down low...What is the mission of the plejarens ... if not to make a impact on earth humans... 300 years here and what have you to show for it... hummm?....Humans still have all these wars...starving people GREED and so on...truly how have you helped? Giving and taking must be equel... not if you have greed and the rich get richer and want more... you had 300 years to make a difference in that thinking.... all you do is come to earth for Vacation...to show off your new beamships...PREDECTIONS for 1977... you could repeat these same predections for the next 30 years and still come out about the same... ya think? now where are these Plejarens when you need them ... thats right there doing there mission which is to help humanity.... ya think?THE mission of the Plejarens should be to contact heads of goverments and the ones that need to know the truth,and the ones that are hungry for power and world domenence and profit your job is to convence these power hungry nuts to change there way of thinking.....make sure they dont gain access to the beamships, after all...your 3500 years more advance than us ... so think like it and act like it ...as if, like earth humans could get control to a beamship with out the know how of doing such a thing... this world needs world leadership... just like your world with the counsel on another planets...... how is this world going to learn and change with out plejarens learership and how the consel works for you...at least half of this worlds population beleaves in ET's now... show them ... us that your human.. but do it at a far...TV... just tell earth the truth ... in time they will learn....300 years the plejarens have been here and yet i dont see where you have been a benafit to earth just by talking to one person and mind thinking to 2 women...by now you should know what steps to take and who to take them with... you know by doing the right thing at the right time can make all of the right changes for this greedy humanity...... maybe i see now that you see this world as being hopeless do to you took a jump into the future... but yet your all still here you havnt 100% pulled out of this world...not all of man kind would demand offical contact with the plejarens are whoever...just pick out the need to know people of earth... after all you have watch our TV broadcasts, talk to the world in this way...COME ON ... your advanced by more than 21 million years but yet your thinking like your only 3500 years advanced than us...it needs repeating so it can sink in... ya think...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:14, 19 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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They have given every opportunity to change our fate but we didnt' listen. I guess you could say we aren't educated enough yet to comprehend common sense. There are many levels of understanding, once we reach a certain HIGH level of understanding as a whole then we may be rewared with new adventures. First we must conquer our rather simple meager problems on Earth. If we can't solve elemtary level decision making how can we wisely upgrade ahead of our time. :) You also have to take into account this is the free will universe guidelines thus by laws of creation no manipulation can take place under certain circumstances. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 04:16, 20 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Who is this "we didnt lison people" THE problem is ,is that it was said at a wisper... that wisper didnt get the rich&greedy peoples atension...now did it...theres lots of peoples lissoning out there and you know it...so dont use that for an excuce any longer...you got to stand on there breathing tube if you want to get them to lisson and change there ways ... theres got to be a buck in it for them... the "greedy"... all im asking is that the E T's show there face and be up front and honest with people of earth... and stop it with the GAMES...if we arent educated enough... Educate us...we wont reach this high level of understanding untill the Plejarens show there face to the right people...earth is just looking for guidence in the right direction...and not manipulation are any up grades ... your putting the carage before the horse, your making a mounton out of a moul hill... our way of thinking needs to be up graded and this needs to be done for the rich and greedy and powerfull...no more excuces with your 3500 advanced years way of thinking... where theres a way theres a free will...Our goverments dont know about your free will way of thinking... Ya Think ?<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 16:03, 20 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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That would be the normal response from current Earth education level. Give me what I have not earned. I suggest reading the spirit teachings in detail to further advance your thinking and then eventually................... in time and with patience, something lacking here on our planet Earth shall our problems be solved. If one were to show there face then the danger would be great would it not, imagine how many people would try to manipulate a fraction of there capabilities for incorrect purposes. If they cannot currently utilize the simplistic design in truth how can the with a straight eye utilize more complex abilities truthfully. I suggest each person find inner peace first and then venture out into other venues. :)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:00, 20 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Zameen said ... ==<br />
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mmmmm, Mrnorm <br />
your asking for the cut, the slice, the lift, the entry and finally, after the chewing(which you have finally done like a calf)expect us to taste it for you!! You are a knave.<br />
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 02:11, 21 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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all im asking for is hold the carret in front of the horse ... its that simple,but first they have to see the carret maybe touch it to see if its real ... sure they will try to take advantage of the happenings ... how many times have i read that the ET's have talk to people on earth though out the centurys...and comunacate with outher worlds of all advances of education... well thats all ive ever been asking..comunacating, not passing on of secrets of any kind... im just asking to tell the truth so the world can deal with it, that its.. seen and be heard... so how are we to be educated if theres no teacher...take the bible ,the new testament, 2000 years and they got it all bacaswords, they bend the truth...today and it always has been..church is for profit not spirit ...Im asking for talk ,communication ..nothing elce...again its that simple...the ET's have shown them selves for 1000's of years ...now be up front with it all...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 16:00, 21 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Roob said ... ==<br />
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I was pretty sure I read that the plejarens can have upto 3 wives. So why does this chapter say that Plejarens are monogomous?<br />
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--Roob 07:20, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Plejaran wives get one husband only. <br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 07:26, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I can't imagine 3 wives. Is that 3 wives for each planet residence you occupy. Let's say you have time share on 3,000 planets, that would be a whole lot of loving. :) j/k <br />
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--Mark 12:39, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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Mark your a nut:) but I like where your going!<br />
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--zameen 16:57, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Hi Roob.<br />
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It is true that the Plejarens are monogamous, even though the Plejaren men may have several wives. The book "The Law of Love" explains that Earth humans have a false understanding of monogamy. Even though the men may have several wives, the marriage is still considered as one bond and one union (mono-gamy = one-marriage) with the man and the wives. This sentence from the Goblet of Truth gives some more details:<br />
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32)And it is rightful that the woman has one man only, because it is only through one man alone that a procreation (fertilisation) for descendants can come about; a man, however, may have three women, because he is capable of undertaking several procreations (fertilisations) with several women, but it is given for him to be able to be fair to all women in all things and in their provision and in their equality; and if a man has several women then a bond (marriage) applies with each of them, within which the other women are also included and take part.<br />
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It is one bond of a loving relationship, even though there are several members in the one union.<br />
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--Sanjin 19:16, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I have an ALTERNATE interpretation. Once the the BIG BANG occured we were all in one tiny spec of existence, HENCE maximum distribution of outgoing matter once the BANG occured. EVENTUALLY once we reach that absolute absolutum they speak of we will all be together ONCE again. :) We will have a ton of wives reaching level 1 absolutum once accumulated. I am ABSOLUTELY full of joy at this time. :) j/k<br />
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--Mark 22:13, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Am i wrong here... 21,000,000 million years ago you had or created your first space ship for outer space yet you say that the plejarens are only 3500 years ahead of us ... usa...Im sure the plejarens would have every thing under control if they so wished when it comes to contacting earth goverments on the down low...What is the mission of the plejarens ... if not to make a impact on earth humans... 300 years here and what have you to show for it... hummm?....Humans still have all these wars...starving people GREED and so on...truly how have you helped? Giving and taking must be equel... not if you have greed and the rich get richer and want more... you had 300 years to make a difference in that thinking.... all you do is come to earth for Vacation...to show off your new beamships...PREDECTIONS for 1977... you could repeat these same predections for the next 30 years and still come out about the same... ya think? now where are these Plejarens when you need them ... thats right there doing there mission which is to help humanity.... ya think?THE mission of the Plejarens should be to contact heads of goverments and the ones that need to know the truth,and the ones that are hungry for power and world domenence and profit your job is to convence these power hungry nuts to change there way of thinking.....make sure they dont gain access to the beamships, after all...your 3500 years more advance than us ... so think like it and act like it ...as if, like earth humans could get control to a beamship with out the know how of doing such a thing... this world needs world leadership... just like your world with the counsel on another planets...... how is this world going to learn and change with out plejarens learership and how the consel works for you...at least half of this worlds population beleaves in ET's now... show them ... us that your human.. but do it at a far...TV... just tell earth the truth ... in time they will learn....300 years the plejarens have been here and yet i dont see where you have been a benafit to earth just by talking to one person and mind thinking to 2 women...by now you should know what steps to take and who to take them with... you know by doing the right thing at the right time can make all of the right changes for this greedy humanity...... maybe i see now that you see this world as being hopeless do to you took a jump into the future... but yet your all still here you havnt 100% pulled out of this world...not all of man kind would demand offical contact with the plejarens are whoever...just pick out the need to know people of earth... after all you have watch our TV broadcasts, talk to the world in this way...COME ON ... your advanced by more than 21 million years but yet your thinking like your only 3500 years advanced than us...it needs repeating so it can sink in... ya think...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:14, 19 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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They have given every opportunity to change our fate but we didnt' listen. I guess you could say we aren't educated enough yet to comprehend common sense. There are many levels of understanding, once we reach a certain HIGH level of understanding as a whole then we may be rewared with new adventures. First we must conquer our rather simple meager problems on Earth. If we can't solve elemtary level decision making how can we wisely upgrade ahead of our time. :) You also have to take into account this is the free will universe guidelines thus by laws of creation no manipulation can take place under certain circumstances. <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 04:16, 20 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Who is this "we didnt lison people" THE problem is ,is that it was said at a wisper... that wisper didnt get the rich&greedy peoples atension...now did it...theres lots of peoples lissoning out there and you know it...so dont use that for an excuce any longer...you got to stand on there breathing tube if you want to get them to lisson and change there ways ... theres got to be a buck in it for them... the "greedy"... all im asking is that the E T's show there face and be up front and honest with people of earth... and stop it with the GAMES...if we arent educated enough... Educate us...we wont reach this high level of understanding untill the Plejarens show there face to the right people...earth is just looking for guidence in the right direction...and not manipulation are any up grades ... your putting the carage before the horse, your making a mounton out of a moul hill... our way of thinking needs to be up graded and this needs to be done for the rich and greedy and powerfull...no more excuces with your 3500 advanced years way of thinking... where theres a way theres a free will...Our goverments dont know about your free will way of thinking... Ya Think ?<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 16:03, 20 September 2011 (BST)<br />
</div></div>Mrnormhttps://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chapter_4_-_PLEYARENS&diff=17251Talk:Chapter 4 - PLEYARENS2011-09-19T20:14:10Z<p>Mrnorm: Comment provided by Mrnorm - via ArticleComments extension</p>
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== Roob said ... ==<br />
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I was pretty sure I read that the plejarens can have upto 3 wives. So why does this chapter say that Plejarens are monogomous?<br />
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--Roob 07:20, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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The Plejaran wives get one husband only. <br />
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 07:26, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I can't imagine 3 wives. Is that 3 wives for each planet residence you occupy. Let's say you have time share on 3,000 planets, that would be a whole lot of loving. :) j/k <br />
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--Mark 12:39, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== zameen said ... ==<br />
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Mark your a nut:) but I like where your going!<br />
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--zameen 16:57, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Sanjin said ... ==<br />
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Hi Roob.<br />
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It is true that the Plejarens are monogamous, even though the Plejaren men may have several wives. The book "The Law of Love" explains that Earth humans have a false understanding of monogamy. Even though the men may have several wives, the marriage is still considered as one bond and one union (mono-gamy = one-marriage) with the man and the wives. This sentence from the Goblet of Truth gives some more details:<br />
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32)And it is rightful that the woman has one man only, because it is only through one man alone that a procreation (fertilisation) for descendants can come about; a man, however, may have three women, because he is capable of undertaking several procreations (fertilisations) with several women, but it is given for him to be able to be fair to all women in all things and in their provision and in their equality; and if a man has several women then a bond (marriage) applies with each of them, within which the other women are also included and take part.<br />
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It is one bond of a loving relationship, even though there are several members in the one union.<br />
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--Sanjin 19:16, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mark said ... ==<br />
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I have an ALTERNATE interpretation. Once the the BIG BANG occured we were all in one tiny spec of existence, HENCE maximum distribution of outgoing matter once the BANG occured. EVENTUALLY once we reach that absolute absolutum they speak of we will all be together ONCE again. :) We will have a ton of wives reaching level 1 absolutum once accumulated. I am ABSOLUTELY full of joy at this time. :) j/k<br />
<br />
--Mark 22:13, 18 July 2010 (BST)<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Am i wrong here... 21,000,000 million years ago you had or created your first space ship for outer space yet you say that the plejarens are only 3500 years ahead of us ... usa...Im sure the plejarens would have every thing under control if they so wished when it comes to contacting earth goverments on the down low...What is the mission of the plejarens ... if not to make a impact on earth humans... 300 years here and what have you to show for it... hummm?....Humans still have all these wars...starving people GREED and so on...truly how have you helped? Giving and taking must be equel... not if you have greed and the rich get richer and want more... you had 300 years to make a difference in that thinking.... all you do is come to earth for Vacation...to show off your new beamships...PREDECTIONS for 1977... you could repeat these same predections for the next 30 years and still come out about the same... ya think? now where are these Plejarens when you need them ... thats right there doing there mission which is to help humanity.... ya think?THE mission of the Plejarens should be to contact heads of goverments and the ones that need to know the truth,and the ones that are hungry for power and world domenence and profit your job is to convence these power hungry nuts to change there way of thinking.....make sure they dont gain access to the beamships, after all...your 3500 years more advance than us ... so think like it and act like it ...as if, like earth humans could get control to a beamship with out the know how of doing such a thing... this world needs world leadership... just like your world with the counsel on another planets...... how is this world going to learn and change with out plejarens learership and how the consel works for you...at least half of this worlds population beleaves in ET's now... show them ... us that your human.. but do it at a far...TV... just tell earth the truth ... in time they will learn....300 years the plejarens have been here and yet i dont see where you have been a benafit to earth just by talking to one person and mind thinking to 2 women...by now you should know what steps to take and who to take them with... you know by doing the right thing at the right time can make all of the right changes for this greedy humanity...... maybe i see now that you see this world as being hopeless do to you took a jump into the future... but yet your all still here you havnt 100% pulled out of this world...not all of man kind would demand offical contact with the plejarens are whoever...just pick out the need to know people of earth... after all you have watch our TV broadcasts, talk to the world in this way...COME ON ... your advanced by more than 21 million years but yet your thinking like your only 3500 years advanced than us...it needs repeating so it can sink in... ya think...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:14, 19 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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Billy doesnt know...but it probaly is a e t from some where are some kind doing a Bar b Q ya think ?<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:32, 15 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== dod said ... ==<br />
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its really awesome<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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I believe (correct me if not?) that a honorable man in the 1950's named Antoine Priore developed a machine called the Bordeaux Magnetic Machine. Basically it combines two or more high frequencies of longitudinal EM waves inside "pulsed" magnetic field carriers better known as "Scalar" waves to cure many cancerous cases both in animals and humans by the process known as quote.<br />
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"The mechanism is a dramatic extension to nonlinear optics, moving it to the "time domain", and resulting in the forced propagation of the pumped cellular mass itself-including the genetics- in the "time domain". Hence the damaged or diseased cellular mass is slowly reverted back to a previous earlier state. Quoted from the KeelyNet website, July 6 1990.<br />
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However, this technology was seized, weaponized and classified by the powers to be for evil purposes, which is called Scalar and further acknowledged by professor Tom Bearden, who also did an excellent line-for-line analysis comparing the perverted Christian bible to the Book of Talmud.<br />
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== Bigfoot said ... ==<br />
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Tungusta explosion destroyed 4000 technologically advanced and higher evolved human beings from another solar system.This means that there are now 4000 humans evolving here on earth that are higher evolved than most of the other 8-9 billion people.True or False?<br />
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== Hawaiian said ... ==<br />
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Bigfoot,<br />
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If you are referring to their spiritual evolved levels, then technically speaking, the answer to that is YES. But whether their current personalities being re-incarnated in Earth humans are at the moment contributing to this level remains in question for the following reasons:<br />
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Was it not evident that these advanced humans responsible for bringing the concept of religions/gods to their home world which resulted in war and destruction, being intervened by higher intelligences that forbade any more missions to Earth?<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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Beamships of earth 65.52.58...Just dont see how this Brazillian group could ever learn are have the know how to fly a spaceship...these ET's were from a world that didnt breath our air... didnt look human Had a different language than this worlds peoples and didnt have there how to book with them... there fore information stored in there PC's... they could not get this information do to they didnt understand it even if they found it...Using reverce engineer...ing they would have technology that would be worth Trillions.................................Earth built U F O 's are nothing like a Beamship... and to me if you see a beamship and know its a beamship are a spaceship its not a U F O any longer but a I F O..are better yet a..I F S ...IDENTIFIED FLYING SPACESHIP...enought with unidentified flying nonsense<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 17:42, 15 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Mrnorm said ... ==<br />
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I beleave that many many people that read all this information are put into a stuper... they dont know what to say are do... REAL are NOT REAL.. could it be... if it is real the goverment would do something... I HOPE NOT...But i will say that people that do read this ... TV and movie writers and producers ... i notice that there thinking has curved to the writings of all this information that is given out do to this site...thanks for that...<br />
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its really awesome<br />
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I believe (correct me if not?) that a honorable man in the 1950's named Antoine Priore developed a machine called the Bordeaux Magnetic Machine. Basically it combines two or more high frequencies of longitudinal EM waves inside "pulsed" magnetic field carriers better known as "Scalar" waves to cure many cancerous cases both in animals and humans by the process known as quote.<br />
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"The mechanism is a dramatic extension to nonlinear optics, moving it to the "time domain", and resulting in the forced propagation of the pumped cellular mass itself-including the genetics- in the "time domain". Hence the damaged or diseased cellular mass is slowly reverted back to a previous earlier state. Quoted from the KeelyNet website, July 6 1990.<br />
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However, this technology was seized, weaponized and classified by the powers to be for evil purposes, which is called Scalar and further acknowledged by professor Tom Bearden, who also did an excellent line-for-line analysis comparing the perverted Christian bible to the Book of Talmud.<br />
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Tungusta explosion destroyed 4000 technologically advanced and higher evolved human beings from another solar system.This means that there are now 4000 humans evolving here on earth that are higher evolved than most of the other 8-9 billion people.True or False?<br />
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If you are referring to their spiritual evolved levels, then technically speaking, the answer to that is YES. But whether their current personalities being re-incarnated in Earth humans are at the moment contributing to this level remains in question for the following reasons:<br />
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Was it not evident that these advanced humans responsible for bringing the concept of religions/gods to their home world which resulted in war and destruction, being intervened by higher intelligences that forbade any more missions to Earth?<br />
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Beamships of earth 65.52.58...Just dont see how this Brazillian group could ever learn are have the know how to fly a spaceship...these ET's were from a world that didnt breath our air... didnt look human Had a different language than this worlds peoples and didnt have there how to book with them... there fore information stored in there PC's... they could not get this information do to they didnt understand it even if they found it...Using reverce engineer...ing they would have technology that would be worth Trillions.................................Earth built U F O 's are nothing like a Beamship... and to me if you see a beamship and know its a beamship are a spaceship its not a U F O any longer but a I F O..are better yet a..I F S ...IDENTIFIED FLYING SPACESHIP...enought with unidentified flying nonsense<br />
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<div>Sanjin: Just caught a few little translation errors. I'll check the whole thing tonight. Thanks Reece for putting this up.<br />
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I checked through most of the text and found many errors, mostly in long, more complex sentences. But unfortunately, when I tried to save what was fixed, I was not logged in anymore and lost everything....<br />
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But I'll try to get permission from the author first before making changes. <br />
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Also, I would like to warn everyone that the translation, although really good in places, does have many flaws and should not be taken for granted.<br />
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[[User:MarksmanR|MarksmanR]] 00:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC) Yeah I had a similar issue; I noticed I was initially logged out when I went on futureofmankind.co.uk this morning, also from a few other sites as if some of my cookies were deleted. Thanks for fixing up errors.<br />
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to me that is truely poor photogarphy do to the photogpher...,i had better skills at 10, and im not braging not what so ever...in none of the photos does it apear that the ship is floating... so close and yet so far away...<br />
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vary nice pictures of the sky... maybe thats what billy was aiming at,at the time,ill leave it at that...<br />
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<div>Sanjin: Just caught a few little translation errors. I'll check the whole thing tonight. Thanks Reece for putting this up.<br />
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9/18/09<br />
I checked through most of the text and found many errors, mostly in long, more complex sentences. But unfortunately, when I tried to save what was fixed, I was not logged in anymore and lost everything....<br />
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But I'll try to get permission from the author first before making changes. <br />
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Also, I would like to warn everyone that the translation, although really good in places, does have many flaws and should not be taken for granted.<br />
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[[User:MarksmanR|MarksmanR]] 00:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC) Yeah I had a similar issue; I noticed I was initially logged out when I went on futureofmankind.co.uk this morning, also from a few other sites as if some of my cookies were deleted. Thanks for fixing up errors.<br />
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to me that is truely poor photogarphy do to the photogpher...,i had better skills at 10, and im not braging not what so ever...in none of the photos does it apear that the ship is floating... so close and yet so far away...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:06, 12 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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Does anyone know where Don Showen is?<br />
Please have him call: 828-333-5077<br />
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Needless to say this is OVER over KiLL<br />
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I disagree and think C3PO is incapable of translating all earthly languages correctly known as a malfunction. I spoke to the ultra creative council of councils and they said human creativity can prevail in such situations. :) <br />
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Many women like to tan their skins by lying on the beach wearing almost-nothingness. I do not think they tried to harm themselves. There must be another reason why they did that. I should find it out as soon as possible. Time is pressing.<br />
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Not that they care what my opinion happens to be but I prefer women with soft white untanned skin. I find tanned women unattractive put simply, so unless they want to impress asian or african guys its probably a good idea to just have mild sun exposure not excessive. Having soft white untanned skin myself I burn easily if left in the sun for too long and when I was a small child my foolish grandparents thought it would be a good lesson to teach me, allowing me to get seriously burnt when on holiday in florida. My skin on my back and shoulders has never really recovered from that even 10 years later. Sun exposure is good for you, but careless excessive exposure is plain stupid, especially in area's that have minimal ozone.<br />
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My Granny told me a story about how when she was in her twenties, it was popular to go outside and not only sit in the sun for long periods of time and get friend like a lobster. What's more, they would make a tri-fold out of tin foil and reflect the sun's rays onto their skin from those three extra sides of reflection! I remember being baffled, barely able to comprehend the reasoning of people after she told me that story a few years ago. That has to explain why so many elderly people these days have such bad skin.<br />
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I wish Earth women are the only female human life forms who tan their skins. If women on other planets also tan their skins, I should make an intergalactic seminar about this popular culture and expose its hidden danger. As christianity imported from Earth could make an unnecessary social unrests on another planet, this skin tanning culture could corrupted the minds of beautiful women on other planets all over DERN. I could not let it happen. The social cost of this problem would be too high. <br />
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I prefer light glowing skin to darker skin due to more detail in body structure of women being more visible. :)<br />
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Sorry Two Marks, I have to tell you that you ignore an important point here. While the women were lying on a beach to tan their skins they wear only almost-nothingness, which showed the details you have been looking for all of your lives, through ages and periods. No matter how light or how dark their skins are, the details will be shown simply because nothing cover them.<br />
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I disagree on what you term as detail once again Alive do not presume. :)<br />
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Smoking is a total waste of time. It elimates yourself in time while killing others around you as well with the 2nd hand smoke. It's smell is tough to dissipate from objects such as clothing, belongings, home wear, toys. People are foolish enough to actually pay to kill themselves slowly, how silly is that. Another day in weirdo land. :)<br />
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Haha... "Another day in weirdo land" is right.<br />
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sorry to say the world speaks american, and im trying to figure out why and are what is ment by a coded language, the english dont even speak english,cause sometimes you need an interperter...lolbut i like the music not rap ...yuk...<br />
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sorry to say the world speaks american, and im trying to figure out why and are what is ment by a coded language, the english dont even speak english,cause sometimes you need an interperter...lolbut i like the music not rap ...yuk...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:11, 7 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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I disagree and think C3PO is incapable of translating all earthly languages correctly known as a malfunction. I spoke to the ultra creative council of councils and they said human creativity can prevail in such situations. :) <br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 06:31, 9 July 2011 (BST)<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Many women like to tan their skins by lying on the beach wearing almost-nothingness. I do not think they tried to harm themselves. There must be another reason why they did that. I should find it out as soon as possible. Time is pressing.<br />
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Not that they care what my opinion happens to be but I prefer women with soft white untanned skin. I find tanned women unattractive put simply, so unless they want to impress asian or african guys its probably a good idea to just have mild sun exposure not excessive. Having soft white untanned skin myself I burn easily if left in the sun for too long and when I was a small child my foolish grandparents thought it would be a good lesson to teach me, allowing me to get seriously burnt when on holiday in florida. My skin on my back and shoulders has never really recovered from that even 10 years later. Sun exposure is good for you, but careless excessive exposure is plain stupid, especially in area's that have minimal ozone.<br />
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== RemR said ... ==<br />
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My Granny told me a story about how when she was in her twenties, it was popular to go outside and not only sit in the sun for long periods of time and get friend like a lobster. What's more, they would make a tri-fold out of tin foil and reflect the sun's rays onto their skin from those three extra sides of reflection! I remember being baffled, barely able to comprehend the reasoning of people after she told me that story a few years ago. That has to explain why so many elderly people these days have such bad skin.<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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I wish Earth women are the only female human life forms who tan their skins. If women on other planets also tan their skins, I should make an intergalactic seminar about this popular culture and expose its hidden danger. As christianity imported from Earth could make an unnecessary social unrests on another planet, this skin tanning culture could corrupted the minds of beautiful women on other planets all over DERN. I could not let it happen. The social cost of this problem would be too high. <br />
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I prefer light glowing skin to darker skin due to more detail in body structure of women being more visible. :)<br />
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Sorry Two Marks, I have to tell you that you ignore an important point here. While the women were lying on a beach to tan their skins they wear only almost-nothingness, which showed the details you have been looking for all of your lives, through ages and periods. No matter how light or how dark their skins are, the details will be shown simply because nothing cover them.<br />
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I disagree on what you term as detail once again Alive do not presume. :)<br />
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== Markvd said ... ==<br />
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Smoking is a total waste of time. It elimates yourself in time while killing others around you as well with the 2nd hand smoke. It's smell is tough to dissipate from objects such as clothing, belongings, home wear, toys. People are foolish enough to actually pay to kill themselves slowly, how silly is that. Another day in weirdo land. :)<br />
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 22:04, 21 August 2011 (BST)<br />
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Haha... "Another day in weirdo land" is right.<br />
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sorry to say the world speaks american, and im trying to figure out why and are what is ment by a coded language, the english dont even speak english,cause sometimes you need an interperter...lolbut i like the music not rap ...yuk...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 21:10, 7 September 2011 (BST)<br />
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By members do you meen goverment? cause what you did for Billy, you more or less groomed him too where he is to day,only do the same for some one here in the states to where someone is groomed to become a president but with insite,you see i beleave that Billy are a person like billy would be a grate president, knowing what he knows would put american and the world to work and thats what we need...Jobs<br />
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Profit and power at any price, so what can we do about it? this is the cause of war,thats why vietnam, it truely had nothing to do with the spread of communism, that was just the exscuse that was used at the time,people cant see the nose in front of there face...people are so under educated in the ways of the evels of the world,yet there are followers that need guidence, such like the evels of hitler and what his band of cronies did...One of the BIG things that are holding is Big power oil cos. our goverment needs to take charge and force a out come of other energy resources and in return this would help put america back to work, but i beleave all these dum ass presadents are blind to to the future... theres only war on these aaas holes minds<br />
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Ice needle storm?What form of weather can create such a storm?Is this a story that could repeat itself weatherwise in our time?<br />
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Hopefully we have grown wiser since then. The US has to grow up so the rest of the world can move on. We have to stop thinking one dimensional and think of the whole of Earth. I don't mean conquering the whole of Earth either.:) It seems we have many challenges ahead hopefully we handle them in a honorable manner rather than utilizing underhanded tactics. I think we can do it. We just need to limit power to those that have outrageous ambitions that have no conscience at all about life. If you can sacrifice even one life then you are not worthy of a top position in any government. Defense is defense and there is no alternate theory or sidequest that is acceptable. <br />
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Ptaah speaks, line 20... Pharisee Simeon, the father of the traitor Judah Ihariot,.... key word here (traitor)...and as we all should know by now that the father of Judas is the TRAITOR... not Judah !!! Why does this line 20 read wrong this way ?<br />
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THis is true i conferm this about judas... ive been teaching this for over 30 years... just read JOHN: the last supper,read it twice and slowly...<br />
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@ 101 where it says, therefore...Juda Ihariot... jmmanuel says... it is so... shouldnt it read, judas father(pharisee) Remember the bible has been rewriten so to allow the romans to feel good about them selves for the killing of Jmmanuel...that why they pray to MARY...it also says above that Jmmanuel lives to 83 not 33...Hummm?Ive read in a dicinary that betray meens to turn are hand over... and the word and translation has been misrepresented all this time do to the romens of the 3rd. and 4th. century...<br />
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Why did judas hang him self? its not because of what his father haS DONE TO HIM BUT, MAYBE THATs A SMALL PART OF IT, BUT ITS BECAUSE hE- jUDA LOVE jMMANUeL and vice versa...and wanted to be with Jmmanuel forever more...its that simple... and he hung there for weeks,and do to he was filled with gasses when he was finaly cut down ... juda burst open with guts exsploding out....but his soul already with the J man... you see it was Judas end of days... thats what end of days is ...its the last day you are any one is here on earth... NOT the end of the world!!! End of days is when the J mam comes to you and you to him in heaven on your last day here on earth as a living human being... end of your days...Understand now?<br />
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there is no resistance to a spaceship as a beamship do to the ship repells pressures such as air and water, there fore theres no fricion...(line 67, 68...)are it would burn up on entry into earths atmosphere,the ship repells every thing like bullets are even a persons touch ...But this doesnt meen that the ship cant have a crash of some kind...the ship can be a box shape and fly though space without any atmaspherect resistance...do to the manipulation of adams...and i beleave this is done by sound waves that we cant hear...thanks to there science....dont ya think? (line 72... talk about radiation shield,is this a radiation sound wave? and this is why when we see a ship it looks like its vibebrading...Lets say, you make every thing negative the ship, earth, moon, Gravitational pull... so now you levatate and now you want to move your ship to what ever direction you want to go... you flip a switch are a joy stick are a touch pap and that makes what ever your aiming at a positive source and Zoooom your off at a vary high rate of speed- up too 5000 mph are faster... <br />
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Humans want to be lead ,even if its wrong, they want a leader ship that will tell them where to go even if its enslavement,but if you go against ther beleafs they might even take a shot a you a few times...they dont care if its in a wrong direction...<br />
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i still think contact with the right Heads of State in a few of the right countrys would change there way thinking for the betterment of man kind,it dont have to be in person at first...ya think?<br />
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i still think contact with the right Heads of State in a few of the right countrys would change there way thinking for the betterment of man kind,it dont have to be in person at first...ya think?<br />
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i still think contact with the right Heads of State in a few of the right countrys would change there way thinking for the betterment of man kind,it dont have to be in person at first...ya think?<br />
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Hi that's a detailed analysis but I think you've missed some obvious points, there seems to be a clear difference in the jaw size in two pictures of the dean martin woman in figure 2 and figure 5, as these pictures are the same woman, any difference between the other pictures therefore can logically be attributed to angle of photography and facial expression,also the woman to the left In figure 4 is clearly standing close to the other woman next to her, wheras in figure 5 she is standing slightly in front and hence closer to the camera making her head appear larger. For whatever reason and by whomever, the pictures are clearly fake as has been stated by figu, this however does not detract from the hundreds of other thoroughly investigated and proven authentic pictures taken, except in the way it leads people to discuss hoax theories instead of focusing on the reality of the rest of the information. In my opinion, discussing these photographs and the few other obvious questionable example which have been stated as such by billy and figu is detrimental to the case as all you can say is that they are indeed tampered with or fake. Better I think to focus on what can be proven or even better on the message provided by the plejaran which is far more important than any picture.<br />
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It is said the DAL universe was born at the same time as our DERN, thus being known as it's "TWIN". If I would venture to guess, that would or could possibly mean a whole alternate reality similar to ours in appearance but could be more advanced in other areas. :)Thus this could be a possible hoax with no ill intent to see and capture fraudulant ET's claiming to see truth or it could be there is an Asket. I remember a contact report stating that it was OK to allow Askets photo to be seen because it would not affect her or Nera being from the DAL universe. However there is another theory that could be possible, maybe they wanted to see the current maturity of those that control power in the media and "HOW" they would handle the situation? If that was the case, "EPIC FAIL" would be the conclusion. <br />
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"...will be banned until their next incarnation." Jezzzuz Chrrrist !<br />
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Billy could have send his original or similar camera to taken her pictures again. Sure someone could taken camera to and from Universes, and it will take short time to take a snap without complicated instructions. I don't think it would be a burden on their precious times on both sides. <br />
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Here's where the author of the article hereunder makes a crucial mistake: The two still images compared side-by-side in Figure 6 are NOT from the same episode of The Dean Martin Show!<br />
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The image on the right is from the program that was originally broadcast on January 28, 1971, while the image on the left was from the final show of the season, which was telecast on April 8, 1971. I ought to know -- I created, wrote and produced The Golddiggers Super Site. I am also very close to the lady identified as Asket, who, I can assure you, really IS Michelle DellaFave.<br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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Video Vision, you're the king, man.<br />
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 18:33, 8 September 2010 (UTC)Photographic pictures have “residue” essences of that particular person and can be either negatively or positively influenced by those who have mastered their 6th and 7th senses (see FIGU Special Bulletin 038). That is why Semjase refused any attempt by Billy to take her photograph and she also mentions the dangers of doing so for those who reside in the same universe. (I forgot which Contact Note has it).<br />
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However, since Asket lives in the DAL universe which is separated by material belts from the DERN universe, any attempts to influence her are blocked.<br />
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I would assume the Plejarens have the technological methods to prevent harm by those wishing to do so.<br />
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FIGU Special Bulletin 038<br />
With the reading of thoughts and with actual telepathy and all other neurophysiological factors, alpha waves play a big role, as with mediation, because these flow, in the thought-current, synchronously through both hemispheres of the brain, whereby they are also active with the processing of pictures and pictorial imaginings, as is also the case under hypnosis and in trance when the brain switches to the so-called alpha mode.<br />
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Thoughts and feelings do not only course through the brain, rather they also work beyond it and can be "transmitted", in the form of telepathy, across three light-seconds (around 900,000 kilometers) and be received and understood by another suitable brain.<br />
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There may be of some importance is getting new photographs of Asket, if she agrees to do so, maybe someone should ask BEAM? But the damage done by the MIB is permanent, it will always be a negative factor to counteract any more photos of Asket. People should instead focus their attention on the spiritual evolution and not material confirmations.<br />
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Sometimes I think the pleiarens are too cautious. Billy let people took pictures of him and even made videos of him and even tested him with a lie detector. Billy drinks alcohol beverages and smokes tobacco. He listens to various kind of musics and chats with pretty women (terrestrial and extraterrestrial). Conclusion? He is a man.<br />
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Alive I agree, none of those things are listed in the 12 commandments "10 to current majority of Earth population" :) There knowledge is beyond us at this time "Plejaren" thus we must be patient. Remember that usually the most eager to learn more from others through any means necessary turns out rotten in the end rather than progressing at a steady pace and understanding the current material available.:) <br />
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== Alive said ... ==<br />
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You said "...thus we must be patient." Be patient about what?<br />
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Video Vision thank you for your comment. So there is 2 months time difference between the photos in figure 6? Interesting. <br />
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Can you ask Michelle the following questions to help us investigate this further, please?<br />
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* How many times did she and her colleagues go on the Dean Martin show altogether? <br />
* Did she ever encounter any strange men during the period she and her colleagues were on the show?<br />
* Was she ever asked to style her hair in a particular way for no logical reason?<br />
* Was she ever asked to do anything else that was highly unusual?<br />
* What does she think of the photo in figure 7? Ask her to look closely.<br />
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If you can do this, the answers would be very interesting and helpful. It could be disinformation of course, but still worthy of a read and a digest.<br />
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Alive this is not directed to you or anyone but everyone. <br />
http://theyfly.com/newsflash95/Spiritual/The_wrong_way.pdf<br />
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Okay, Markvd. Thank you for the link. Proofing is foolish, but reasoning is not. I got it.<br />
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logical and plausible analysis!<br />
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Although the men in black really did some negative manipulation of Billy's photos, they forgot to consider human's intuition and other senses that often supersedes the 5 basic senses.<br />
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This is a fine opportunity to use one's intuition and other senses comparing Asket and Michelle's photos, you'll notice a much more refined and evolved "essence" coming from Asket than the more aggressive nature of Michelle (no pun intended).<br />
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Thanks Video Vision for your comments.<br />
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Greetings, one and all.<br />
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I just happened to come upon this page anew because the site stats at The Golddiggers Super Site showed that someone had linked to my site from this page, so I followed the link back here and saw all of the comments posted after I last visited in Sept. 2010.<br />
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Jamesm, I would be happy to try to answer your questions, but I preface any remarks that I make by stating categorically that everything that I write is information -- I don't engage in DISinformation.<br />
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WIth that in mind, here are the best answers that I can give you to the questions that you asked, in the order that you asked them:<br />
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1) Michelle was a cast member on The Dean Martin Show for four seasons, although in the first season, as one of The Golddiggers, she and the rest of the group appeared on only a handful of episodes (perhaps 7 or 8). For the remaining three seasons, she appeared weekly. So, if you figure that there were anywhere from 22 to 25 episodes produced per season, it's possible to roughly estimate that she and The Golddiggers and The Dingaling Sisters appeared on between about 70 to 90 episodes over the course of the period that she was a member of both The Golds and The Dings (Michelle herself has no idea what the exact number is -- she left it to me to do the math).<br />
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2) You asked, "Did she ever encounter any strange men during the period she and her colleagues were on the show?" Hey, are you asking me that with a straight face?!!! I mean, I don't know…Do people like Charles Nelson Reilly, Paul Lynde, Jonathan Winters, Dom DeLuise, Buddy Hackett, et al., meet your definition of "strange men"?!! Surely, they would qualify in some people's books!<br />
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Okay, seriously, I think I understand what you're asking here; and if you mean: Did she ever run into any sinister "Men-in-Black" types?...the answer is a definite "no".<br />
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3) The decision to put that curl in her hair on a few occasions was made by Michelle in consultation with the hair stylist on the show. But it was the Producer-Director of the series, Greg Garrison, who always had the final word on how he wanted the ladies on the program to look and dress. And while he was a very forceful taskmaster on the set, he was about as much of a down-to-earth guy as you'll find anywhere.<br />
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4) Not in connection with The Dean Martin Show. What she did in her private life before I knew her may be another matter…But she gives her assurance that she never had any contact with either alien forces or anyone trying to suppress any knowledge of them.<br />
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5) She thinks it's a blurred still of her appearance on the 1/28/71 episode of The Dean Martin Show. She doesn't use Photoshop, but I do, so I would add that the image could have easily been made to look that way in Photoshop; or if it was made prior to the advent of digital imaging software like Photoshop, it could have just as easily been made using analog photography methods.<br />
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I would add an additional point: I made all of the stills that are shown in Figures 1-6 from my own copies of The Dean Martin Show. I mean no disrespect when I say this, but seriously, guys: These are all images of Michelle excerpted from The Dean Martin Show -- nothing more and nothing less. I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble, and I have no idea how credible Billy Meier is with respect to other matters, but I can ASSURE all of you that with regard to the pictures that we're discussing hereunder, they are ALL of Michelle, and if Billy Meier or anyone else is claiming that they are anything else, then that individual is perpetrating a hoax.<br />
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BUT, I would also add that, for what it's worth, Michelle has gotten a big kick out of all of this. She's flattered by the attention, and appreciates the kindness and respect that everyone who has weighed in on this subject has shown her.<br />
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I think it should also be known that she DOES believe very firmly in a higher power, but it's of a deeply spiritual, rather than an extraterrestrial, nature.<br />
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Do not worry Video Vision none of your harmful words will penetrate the DAL universe and concern Asket at all. So fire away. :) <br />
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@Markvd: I mean no harm -- with words or in any other way -- and I come in peace. But I also speak the truth. :)<br />
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Is it possible that Asket herself who made this confusion to protect her privacy? She is a high-tech woman anyway.<br />
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I read somewhere that Phobol Cheng said Asket's face is not like the face on the mister Billy's photograph. She said that Asket's face is a combination of several races. For me personally it does not matter much if someday it turns out that the woman on the photograph is Tina Turner.<br />
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According to And Still They Fly, within days after photos of Asket and Nera were taken by Billy, the MIB found these American doubles and used the film from their film revue to insert into the pictures Billy had taken. With the help of S, Billy received these pictures of the American doubles and thought they were the originals, but they never were. This had been explained to Billy but due to his memory loss had to be re-explained by Quetzal and at that time Billy wanted to take the pictures out of the collection, but it was suggested they just be renamed Doubles of Asket and Nera.<br />
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Thanks Video Vision! So as far as Michelle says, none of these images contain Asket.<br />
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I don't think that Billy Meier or any FIGU person has said that one of them contains a picture of Asket but the author of this topic, Francisco Villate, said that one of them might.<br />
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Thank you for your time asking her those questions and please pass her my thanks too!<br />
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This doesnt earn comment ,ive have had people come up to me time and time again at all times in my life asking me if im so n so, that i look just like him and thats just in the state of Illinois, people do look a like ...i see it all the time ...this guys an air head....and he probley has air heads that think and look just like him...dont ya think?<br />
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I feel that nothing is ever real unless one has experienced it themselves. Then that individual can determine if what is taught and or you could say advised and your choice to make lifestyle. I always keep an open mind and once I try and see from another perspective, it usually becomes clear. I have implemented many of the teachings of spirit and it has worked out with no fail. If everyone were to read just a tad and implement it little by little our world will be a better place sooner rather than later. :) Not many can calculate all the tremendous mathematical data but you can break it down into smaller parts and build it like a puzzle, eventually you will be complete through determination. <br />
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Yes I agree..the title could have been "3 question to skeptics".<br />
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I have and idea that may add credibility to the case... what if Billy asked Ptaah or Quetzel to provide an e-document or typically used form of communictation the Plejaren use everyday using their original language punctuation etc. to add credence to this case... Their alphabet, their symbols etc etc etc... that would be easy to produce yet hard to hoax...<br />
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Rrarena although that is a idea, I doubt that that would convince the masses or governments of anything. If we can create Star Trek, Wars languages ourselves we could believe it to be a hoax. The only way is to read and implement the teachings into our everyday lives and see for ourselves if they hold validity. Earth is a place full of people that need to find themselves before seeking greater things. There is A LOT to learn before we start daydreaming about the complexity of the cosmos and it's structure. :)<br />
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Billy is not a hoax, ....but maybe a mear novice of a fake not seeking truth is nothing but a fake looking for a hoax,its sad that these people cant see the big picture,...even tho i would love a ride in a beamship like billy, i know that this may never be...but i dont need this ride to know that beamships are real,ive seen them with witnesses,in the navy ...twice, and twice sence...now i dont know if they were beemships are not but i saw what i saw....and they were I F O's...i feel that the motor that pulls a I F O THOUGH AIR SPACE AND WATER,WORKS IN THE SAME MANER THAT DISTORTS THE MOON BY THE USE OFGRAVITATIONAL PULL...A I F O HOOKS ON TO GRAVITATIONAL PULL AND then zooom ,it climes to a speed of 4-5000 mph and faster...there by using gravity as a meens of perpulsion and theres a motor to displace adams to repell any forces like air are water so there would be know friction...ive been telling my kids this for years not that they care are any thing... onece in 1975 i wrote this all down.... but like billy whos going to beleave you... but now i know it dont matter...things like about pres ragan being shot are shot at...and ect.it was some time later i heard about billy for the first time... but i dont remember how i heard...are by who...I think by TV<br />
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I first obtained my copy of the over-sized "Contact from the Pleiades, Vol 1" in 1980. I was shocked at how much it changed my life. <br />
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The more I obtained about the case (especially the contact notes), the deeper it hit me. There is no way to avoid the message Eduard brings, unless your mind is closed. Unfortunately, the majority of Earths inhabitants posses such narrow thinking.<br />
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Anyone with an open mind, and questions about what is fed to them as "the truth", will be truly changed by Mr. Meier and his message. <br />
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I remember when I borrowed the 'Contact from the Pleiades Vol 1'. I usually don't like to tell people what happened because it was so weird. I remember being absolutely in awe, not a good kind of awe, more like a ' my god, this stuff really is for real and it's sorta scary but plenty interesting' kind of way. Then I walked into the next room after I looked at the book and read part of it and bumped into these 2 dark blacker than black things. No faces, just blacker than black. I was pretty used to spirits but this wasn't spirits. And vanished fairly quick. I thought the one felt a little more solid than usual but still, it was just weird. And then I went into a type of shock state like a zombie yet functional of daily stuff and managing my kids, but it took a couple months to recover and I didn't like to think about it. the black things. things of no form. But the Pleiadian stuff, most realistic review of human history and life I ever read. So much of this stuff resonates deep in the soul. I remember feeling glad to find out we're not alone in the Universe. It's a creepy, apprehensive sort of glad. I know these guys(Plejarans) are real and all, but it's still sort of creepy when you think about it long enough. And yeah, it's too bad most people are too ignorant or uninterested to dig into something besides the 'same ol' and learn something new. Or use their mental discipline. Sometimes that aspect really disgusts me because it all comes back to how we live on this planet and how a whole lot of people don't care to rethink birth/population control for one thing. Or how man could easily turn earth into another mars... <br />
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Hi guys,<br />
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My name is Peter and I am from Stirling in the UK. I have not long ago discovered this forum and I like it alot.<br />
I am a bit shy so I wont write much about me but maybe when I will get confortable, you guys will get to know me better!<br />
My main hobbies are astrology and watching movies. I also like outdoor activites but the temperature has been bad for the last weeks or so here in Stirling.<br />
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I was wondering if anyone else here is from the UK too?<br />
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I am glad to have joined this forum!<br />
Cya!<br />
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Hi Vamnembobon, its not really a forum, its a wiki with the capability of anyone making comments on each articles' discussion.<br />
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I'm living in Dumbarton, quite near Stirling. I don't come from here though. I grew up in Plymouth.<br />
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im 100% sure that Kal Korff has made contact with his extratesticals...dont ya know... <br />
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There are beings walking among us that are not of this earth but were borned here just like you and i and Jmmanul...they have been placed here to to gain our trust and understanding,just by using,a not so simple majic and munipulation of the hand...thay can also hover off the ground all by the mulnipulation of adams.... IFO's can move thought air and water without displaceing the air and water .... because the spaceship repells adams... a I F O will not create a bang when braking the sound bearer... unless the pilot wants it to... the ship would not create a breez of any kind, even if it would fly right by you...it doesnt touch the air are water when flying though it...like when in the ocean....its a bitch being 3000 years behind...are so...dont ya think ?<br />
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I first obtained my copy of the over-sized "Contact from the Pleiades, Vol 1" in 1980. I was shocked at how much it changed my life. <br />
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The more I obtained about the case (especially the contact notes), the deeper it hit me. There is no way to avoid the message Eduard brings, unless your mind is closed. Unfortunately, the majority of Earths inhabitants posses such narrow thinking.<br />
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Anyone with an open mind, and questions about what is fed to them as "the truth", will be truly changed by Mr. Meier and his message. <br />
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I remember when I borrowed the 'Contact from the Pleiades Vol 1'. I usually don't like to tell people what happened because it was so weird. I remember being absolutely in awe, not a good kind of awe, more like a ' my god, this stuff really is for real and it's sorta scary but plenty interesting' kind of way. Then I walked into the next room after I looked at the book and read part of it and bumped into these 2 dark blacker than black things. No faces, just blacker than black. I was pretty used to spirits but this wasn't spirits. And vanished fairly quick. I thought the one felt a little more solid than usual but still, it was just weird. And then I went into a type of shock state like a zombie yet functional of daily stuff and managing my kids, but it took a couple months to recover and I didn't like to think about it. the black things. things of no form. But the Pleiadian stuff, most realistic review of human history and life I ever read. So much of this stuff resonates deep in the soul. I remember feeling glad to find out we're not alone in the Universe. It's a creepy, apprehensive sort of glad. I know these guys(Plejarans) are real and all, but it's still sort of creepy when you think about it long enough. And yeah, it's too bad most people are too ignorant or uninterested to dig into something besides the 'same ol' and learn something new. Or use their mental discipline. Sometimes that aspect really disgusts me because it all comes back to how we live on this planet and how a whole lot of people don't care to rethink birth/population control for one thing. Or how man could easily turn earth into another mars... <br />
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Hi guys,<br />
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My name is Peter and I am from Stirling in the UK. I have not long ago discovered this forum and I like it alot.<br />
I am a bit shy so I wont write much about me but maybe when I will get confortable, you guys will get to know me better!<br />
My main hobbies are astrology and watching movies. I also like outdoor activites but the temperature has been bad for the last weeks or so here in Stirling.<br />
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I was wondering if anyone else here is from the UK too?<br />
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I am glad to have joined this forum!<br />
Cya!<br />
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Hi Vamnembobon, its not really a forum, its a wiki with the capability of anyone making comments on each articles' discussion.<br />
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I'm living in Dumbarton, quite near Stirling. I don't come from here though. I grew up in Plymouth.<br />
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im 100% sure that Kal Korff has made contact with his extratesticals...dont ya know... <br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 20:49, 29 August 2011 (BST)<br />
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THis is true i conferm this about judas... ive been teaching this for over 30 years... just read JOHN: the last supper,read it twice and slowly...<br />
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@ 101 where it says, therefore...Juda Ihariot... jmmanuel says... it is so... shouldnt it read, judas father(pharisee) Remember the bible has been rewriten so to allow the romans to feel good about them selves for the killing of Jmmanuel...that why they pray to MARY...it also says above that Jmmanuel lives to 83 not 33...Hummm?Ive read in a dicinary that betray meens to turn are hand over... and the word and translation has been misrepresented all this time do to the romens of the 3rd. and 4th. century...<br />
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i have had many many visions and or dreams that have come true and took place... i beleaved at the time that i could of controled the visions and or dreams... and i took the wrong steps to control these happenings... the visions took place any how,most of the visions had to do with something bad happening, but not all... mrnorm<br />
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I usually had dreams when I was younger usually getting chased and waking up sweating profusely and one time rolled over and fell off my bed. The weird thing was the window was open and it looked like it came out of a horror movie. I found out later I was eating a little too late into the night as a youth and thus had bad nightmares, could be wrong though. HMMMMMM<br />
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just by the communacation of any of the beings from the beamships too heads of state of the world,this would curve there thinking of the wrongs they are doing to each other and to earth... this would be like taking back a flashlight and that shocker back to the 1300 to that rabi Hummm ... i wonder why none of the beamship beings dont look black or asian... maybe they do,how would i know...also i wonder if the beings of the beemships are hiring,cause i would go...i am so in tune in billys way of thinking when it comes to the truth about the bible and religions... Genisis More or less..Not less...is just a book of fables...The bible was rewriten so many times by the Romans the ones that ended Jmmanual life .. thats why they pray today to the mother Mary...i see vary little christianity it that religion when it comes to true teachings of the bible... it is hard to beleave that any beings out side this planet would want to be a followers of our so called religions...dont you think...<br />
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can a beam ship traval into the future,i would say yes because your in our future every day changing the lives of people that see one of your beamships from day to day,cause each day, is a day into there future and your presents changes there future... dont you think...so why not talk to the heads of state... just talk... <br />
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i have had many many visions and or dreams that have come true and took place... i beleaved at the time that i could of controled the visions and or dreams... and i took the wrong steps to control these happenings... the visions took place any how,most of the visions had to do with something bad happening, but not all... mrnorm<br />
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I usually had dreams when I was younger usually getting chased and waking up sweating profusely and one time rolled over and fell off my bed. The weird thing was the window was open and it looked like it came out of a horror movie. I found out later I was eating a little too late into the night as a youth and thus had bad nightmares, could be wrong though. HMMMMMM<br />
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just by the communacation of any of the beings from the beamships too heads of state of the world,this would curve there thinking of the wrongs they are doing to each other and to earth... this would be like taking back a flashlight and that shocker back to the 1300 to that rabi Hummm ... i wonder why none of the beamship beings dont look black or asian... maybe they do,how would i know...also i wonder if the beings of the beemships are hiring,cause i would go...i am so in tune in billys way of thinking when it comes to the truth about the bible and religions... Genisis More or less..Not less...is just a book of fables...The bible was rewriten so many times by the Romans the ones that ended Jmmanual life .. thats why they pray today to the mother Mary...i see vary little christianity it that religion when it comes to true teachings of the bible... it is hard to beleave that any beings out side this planet would want to be a followers of our so called religions...dont you think...<br />
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I beleave by reading this it points me ... it alows me to see much father into the future that with out reading this... you see ,i see alot of truth to this do to my own understandings about the bible and other things...<br />
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The explanation given for electro magnetic delusion of abductions is beneath even the intelligence of the Giza penis heads. Sorry the truth penetrates even the sphinxcter of the bottomless pyramids. Shame on you dear Aqurius with Moon in Scorpio. One simply must update to better technology from NASA if they cant tell one alien lie from another.<br />
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Billy and the Plejarens talk about contacts outside of military and noncivilian kind.<br />
There exists many purported reports from Military sources alleging contacts with aliens (or is this the work of the shadowy group?).<br />
Because Billy and the plejarens cannot talk about contacts concerning the military sorts we can only assume that minute section of witness testimony from disclosure may just be true.<br />
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This is very, VERY confusing. As why is Ptaah saying that what happened to the Hills was untrue and caused by delusions infered by the electromagnetic field of the Earth. Where as in Contact report 37, Semjase explains that they are beings from the Zeta Reticuli star system. ?????? This is the first real contradiction I've read in all these cantact reports. And furthermore, though not mentioned anywhere in the Contact reports, how could someone like Whitley Strieber not be considered to have a real experience very similar to the Hills as well as Travis Walton. I believe in all of this, but this puts a strain on my belief, only as it is such clear contridiction. Could someone please explain this glaring discrepancy!<br />
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well???<br />
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I would have to agree with you, Contact Note 37 regarding Semjase's comments contradicts Ptaah's more recent statements regarding the abduction of the Hills couple. The Plejarens are also human and prone to mistakes, why Ptaah chose to counter his daughter's remarks remains a mystery?<br />
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Maybe it's an attempt to stop other people's delusional aspiration in claiming the same type of abductions from the same or different ET...who knows..maybe you should ask Ptaah himself? There are just too many agendas, both Earthly and non-Earthly sources in this "equation"<br />
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There are several inconsistencies in the Contact(37 & 424) reporting data - of which this is one. In 1975 Semyase says the Hill's WERE taken and experimented upon and 2006 Ptaah tells Billy that the 'electromagnetic earth energies are the causal agent of the Hills 'abduction.<br />
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While I am not 'muddying over Ptaah's comments, perhaps - it behooves ALL of us reading ANY material to cross reference it and to think about the consequences to exposing more than necessary to others. <br />
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Thomas57 that was a good find.:) I think someone told a little too much info than was suppose to be known at the time "Semjase" and maybe my guess is the High Council instructed Ptaah to reject all claims to ease fears in man of Earth. At a later date all may be revealed. There are some truths that must be revealed at the right time. I'm sure Semjase was grounded for at least 100 years of year 1,000 year life cycle. :) j/k <br />
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The Plejarens had acknowledged that they were too trusting of earth human beings and that they had taken our words at face value until the truth got the better of them.<br />
Also they didn't have the sonean technology at that time to make things unequivocally clear.<br />
As they said they aren't perfect nor are they superhuman beings capable of everything.<br />
As for the electromagnetic disturbances of the earth which influenced the hills, I think they were referring to the Giza intelligence's telenotic electromagnetic mind control devices used on them to bring about a false memory just as they had influenced several other human beings in the past.<br />
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I think that Newinitiation is right. Basically they initially jumped to a conclusion based on false evidence (witness testimonials and similar things), which they also do explain in CR424. <br />
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i feel it being sad that some how we cant gain there trust as in helping our world by telling our goverments into getting there act together.Another thing, how on earth can we even think of lowering our population down to 1/2 billion...people have babys even if they cant even aford to feed them..how do you nuter a population? with new tecnology there would be new jobs,and that could end the use of fossel fuels, why stop using telpathicly in contacting us humans? In so doing,giving some humans of this earth the knowledge to acomplishing these things, why are we just a tourist stop? like china we have nothing to sell are trade with you,you take what you want and help if you want,i truely do want to see the big picture and not wate till death to visit the spirit world... how do we live to be 999 years old...what do you see in advances for earths near future ?<br />
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i have had many many visions and or dreams that have come true and took place... i beleaved at the time that i could of controled the visions and or dreams... and i took the wrong steps to control these happenings... the visions took place any how,most of the visions had to do with something bad happening, but not all... mrnorm<br />
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THis is true i conferm this about judas... ive been teaching this for over 30 years... just read JOHN: the last supper,read it twice and slowly...<br />
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:07, 18 August 2011 (BST)<br />
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