Talk:Reincarnation

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Bigfoot said ...

As a rule, people are reincarnated within the group of people and culture where one lived (and thought) in one's former life.

--Bigfoot 22:35, 13 July 2010 (BST)

TheUFOGuy said ...

Is there a way I can remember my past life? I wanna remember!

--TheUFOGuy 07:42, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

I was just browsing through FIGU USA and came across an interesting topic done by Jacob regarding the 25 million former ET spirit forms now incarnated in Earthly humans and also the "original" less evolved ones.

However because of overpopulation, the ratio between death and births has created a situation where too many new spirits are introduced into Earth, resulting in stagnation of spiritual evolution for the vast majority because of the in balance.

There are so much potential for these 25 million former ET spirit forms, if only they recognize it and adhere to the creational mission that BEAM and the Plejarens have brought forth. As a matter-of-fact, based on these figures, even the Plejarens could learn from us, because some of these former ET spiritual forms have the necessary experiences gained on Earth, Malona and Mars that they lack themselves and are the logical "keys" that will address the vast number of interferences created by malevolent ET's that are responsible for the most degenerated planet in the DERN universe.

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/3545.html

Earthhuman Spiritforms:

The oldest: 12,000,000 years 8,000,000 years 6,000,000 years 4,500,000 years (Average age of most Earth human Spiritforms) 2,500,000 years 2,000,000 years The youngest: 1,500,000 years

The Earth human population has come on a level of evolution where no longer incarnation of New Spirit forms is possible, so the Spiritforms who incarnated 1.5 million years ago are the youngest and stay that way, a younger 'generation' of new spiritform will not incarnate on this Earth because the evolution level is too high for New Spirit form to incarnate.


Extraterrestial originated Spiritforms who live currently on Earth

The olderst: 12,000,000,000 years

The youngest: 6,000,000,000 years

The 'native' Earth humans spiritforms are between 1.5 and 12 million years old. The Earthhumans with a ET spiritform are between 8-12 Billion years old, about the same age as the ordinary Plejaren people, with the enormous difference that the Plejaren people have an advancement of nearly 25 million years above the Earthhumans with ET spiritforms. The ET spiritforms that live here have stagnated for a long time so they have fallen back to their Plejaren counterparts in terms of spiritual and material evolution. The high counsel is in the order of 70 billion years old.

The native Earth human spiritforms are so young that they just have developed their ratio and common sense, but almost exclusively in material ways. This can be seen in observing their behavior and their thinking, its mostly purely material.

Salome

Jakobjn

In each life, ever person has to relearn his or hers abilities over again, although previous learned abilities are acquired much faster because of the impulse-influence of the Akasha-banks. When a human is born on this planet with a 12 billion year evolutionary lifespan, but not tought to regain his or hers consciousness-related abilities, then the material consciousness / personality of such a person stays just as insensitive and untrained as that of a Earth-native human of 12 million years old. Thats why the Earthhumans with a ET spiritform can live amongst Earthhumans with a native spirit, the big difference would be that, when, as a rule, Earthhumans with a ET spiritform are drawn much stronger to true spirituality and learn it much faster then Earthhumans with a native spiritforms. This is because they can reach back to 12 billion or 8 or 6 billion years of evolution and the native Earthuman spiritforms can reach back to a maximum of 12 million years. By far most Earthhumans with a native spiritform live mostly their lives in strictly material way, while Earthhumans with a ET background tend to live a more spiritual life.

Jakobjn


--Hawaiian 04:42, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Markvd said ...

I think it depends on perspective. If you don't fall for all the different "Trends" as they would say and use logic then you can prevail in any setting. I think we just need to have a higher goal individually for deeper thinking not just outer layer presumptions. If natural balance is the law of creation I am certain there is no one planet that houses perfectly aligned thoughts and processes. Every place is unique in what it brings to the overall consciosness evolution, it's just we are a lot slower on average as a whole at processing correct and false data compared to others. :) Luckily time is not our enemy due to many lives ahead, but if we start ASAP the days will be better for everyone on the planet.

--Markvd 20:01, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

An analogy for comparison between those that have a much larger evolutionary attribute time frame verses those that have little is similar to the horizon difference between a pond and a vast ocean. Those who have little evolutionary backgrounds will have a limited source to maneuver in a pond of limited scale, therefore require more life cycles (incarnations) and more difficulty in understanding complex Creational directives and even more so in making the logical practical connections amongst the different avenues of dimensions that often link both the material and non-material energies that interplay between space/time and incarnations.

However, those who have a much larger evolutionary base will find it easier to make these connections because the “blueprint” of their evolutionary attributes has already been laid down. In other words these entities are standing on a foundation that is much larger than those new spirit forms that have a limited base to stand on. These so called incarnated former ET’s should not stagnate themselves with religious nonsense or engage in strictly materialistic endeavors even though internally they “sense” a higher calling.

Just an advice to those that fall in the category of these 25 million former ET’s currently reincarnated on Earth is to develop or more accurately speaking, re-connect your higher senses in both the 6th (Intuition) and both 7th senses (primary and spiritual telepathy) by utilizing these senses in your dreaming realms. (Don’t do it on living humans, they may think you’re crazy or become crazy themselves!)

You will often find yourself speaking a very strange language which you “understand completely in its essence”, but not in your current speaking tongue if you even try to translate! It was probably a former language your pass personality once spoke, but you “understand” because of its essence stored in the memory banks. It is hard to explain, because it’s an experience reserved exclusively for one’s “being” because of one’s uniqueness even though such experiences will eventually merge as ONE in the Absolute Absolutim when we all get there in due time! Ha ha J this is only one method and of course many are to be realized in due time.

Then of course, one needs to be careful when interacting at this level, for those who are unbalanced will experience delusions and chaos because of the unstable nature of one’s material conscious. Those of this nature should not even attempt utilizing their higher senses until they become stable and neutrally slightly positive balanced. It would also be advisable to associate oneself to those of comparable attributes for it actually accelerates the evolutionary process of not just the individual, but the entire group as well.

It may sound a bit selfish, but the reality is true for those of lesser evolutionary attributes having much more difficulty in spiritual understanding and becoming a burden to those of higher foundational backgrounds trying to explain the processes that often take many life cycles of experience and knowledge to understand that one sequential step for them equates to several or more steps for the less developed spirit forms. These types of differences are the result of overpopulation and past/current interferences of religious and power lustfulness.

However if one chooses to endeavor in assisting whole heartily in training those of lesser developed spiritual forms (which will stagnate one’s own spiritual development) then that is one’s own prerogative to do so even though it is the primary function of the 7 prophets that were chosen to do so already.


--Hawaiian 21:12, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Markvd said ...

I agree with you that an evolutionary balance should be the goal but I don't think with our massive population it will happen quickly. As time passes peoples senses somewhat get finer and keener in a sense but they tend to stray from truth once material advancements occur. Tough to find balance when people are enamored by the bright lights and follow it rather than sometimes the foundation which will keep them stable and grounded under there feet and they can still stare at the bright lights from a distance. :) Every territory is at a different level, the goal is the key. There has to be that goal that everyone wants to attain that does not have a price on it.

--Markvd 01:18, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Les gabriel said ...

Respectfully, if humans are bound to the planet that they die on,how are they able to be reincarnated, on a passing spaceship. Would this be some kind of an acception? I do not understand,there appears to be an apparent dichotomy.

--Les gabriel 01:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I said ...

I found no dichotomy. In that fictional case, the spaceship was passing near a planet. The spirits detected the spaceship as a part of the planet.

---- M -- 05:37, 17 March 2012 (UTC)